12-21-2023, 02:49 PM
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#14021
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I'd bet it was Lindy or Hanifin involved. Both had term left on great deals (and I think we know Buffalo has had interested in Hanifin).
At the time the Flames were after another top six forward...so it wouldn't have shocked me if it was Hanifin + + +
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If it was Hanifin and he didn’t pull the trigger then it would be a fail but there wasn’t much smoke around either of those guys.
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12-21-2023, 03:11 PM
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#14022
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I'd bet it was Lindy or Hanifin involved. Both had term left on great deals (and I think we know Buffalo has had interested in Hanifin).
At the time the Flames were after another top six forward...so it wouldn't have shocked me if it was Hanifin + + +
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I think it was either a Chucky base (I think Treliving knew he was losing Chucky after the 22 season anyway)or they were going to do something like Monahan+several of our top prospects for an all in run
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12-21-2023, 03:30 PM
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#14023
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Ah, what could have been.
Don't fail us this time, management. Sell everything that isn't nailed down and build around the current young players and whatever highest picks you can get in the next 3 years.
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12-21-2023, 03:44 PM
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#14024
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
While Colorado is not building cap-space, Lindholm's cap hit is declining.
At the trade deadline Lindholm has about $1.06M against the cap remaining. So yeah, if they're holding $1.1M in LTIR at that time? It fits...?
(...LTIR has always been a cluster !@#$ in my head though, so who knows)
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No, Lindholm's cap hit isn't declining. It gets prorated, but that's not the same thing.
When a team has, say, $10 million in cap space at the deadline, it doesn't mean that they can acquire players with a $10 million remaining cap hit. It means they can acquire players whose total cap hit for the season is $10 million. Prorating the number (which you are doing) is just a different way of looking at the same thing – paying the same salary for fewer remaining days in the season. You don't get to do both.
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12-21-2023, 05:13 PM
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#14025
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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12-21-2023, 05:19 PM
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#14026
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
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Educated guess from Lebrun at most, and not really different from what CP has been speculating.
It's a dangerous game to wait too long - hopefully some other suitors enter the fray.
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12-21-2023, 05:27 PM
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#14027
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
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Provided no extension is in place for Lindholm, are these reasonable returns for him at 50% salary retention?
From Boston: 2024 1st round pick + Mason Lohrei + 2024 2nd round pick
From Colorado: 2024 1st round pick + Calum Ritchie + 2024 2nd round pick
Too much? Too little?
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12-21-2023, 05:50 PM
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#14028
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First Line Centre
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I want Gulyayev over Ritchie.
I'd be happy with him and a first. Add a pick for retention and let's ####ing go!
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12-21-2023, 05:54 PM
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#14029
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Problem with Boston is they don't have picks this year. They don't pick until round 4 of the 2024 draft.
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12-21-2023, 06:09 PM
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#14030
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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To get a proper rebuild going you probably need this years first rounder from any team. Or you don’t and tank for an extra season to really have a good chance of having high picks this and next year while collecting draft picks for next year. Positives and negatives for both situations.
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12-21-2023, 06:13 PM
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#14031
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Major
I want Gulyayev over Ritchie.
I'd be happy with him and a first. Add a pick for retention and let's ####ing go!
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Either/or is just fine. Personally I'd rather Ritchie. Big RHS Center replacing a RHS center. I'd say Ritchie is a surefire NHLer and his ceiling is TBD.
Gulyayev is a fantastic D man and perhaps Col9rado can afford to move their top d prospect given that their D corps is locked in for a while. As a big supporter of Russian players I even have to admit the Russian factor at this point in time is more real than it has ever been though, so that's a bit of a stickler.
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12-21-2023, 06:21 PM
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#14032
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by bluejays
To get a proper rebuild going you probably need this years first rounder from any team. Or you don’t and tank for an extra season to really have a good chance of having high picks this and next year while collecting draft picks for next year. Positives and negatives for both situations.
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I’d be fine with the flames having another first round pick in 2025. Provided the extra first they get from the Hanifin trade is in 2024. A first round pick from Boston in 2025 would likely be a better pick than this year anyways as I think they won’t be as good by then.
Last edited by stemit14; 12-21-2023 at 06:26 PM.
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12-21-2023, 06:25 PM
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#14033
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Problem with Boston is they don't have picks this year. They don't pick until round 4 of the 2024 draft.
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I would be fine with a 1st in a 2025 or 2026 draft. Boston's 1st would be really low this year anyway. I would gamble that the 2025 or 2026 1sts will be better.
I know the Veruca Salts around here would be angry though.
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12-21-2023, 06:29 PM
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#14034
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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The problem is that aside from those (very) late picks, they have next to no prospects to offer either. Just not a great trade partner IMO especially for a Flames team that seems to want young roster ready players in return as well
Their 25 1st rounder is tied up as well
Last edited by Toonage; 12-21-2023 at 06:33 PM.
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12-21-2023, 07:18 PM
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#14035
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I would be fine with a 1st in a 2025 or 2026 draft. Boston's 1st would be really low this year anyway. I would gamble that the 2025 or 2026 1sts will be better.
I know the Veruca Salts around here would be angry though.
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You do know that a 1st round pick in later years is worth way less than a 1st round pick this year. That was established after the Zadorov trade. May even be better to pick in the 4th round this year instead of the 1st round in 2026.
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12-21-2023, 07:37 PM
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#14036
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Brad “always the bridesmaid, never the bride” Treliving
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12-21-2023, 08:22 PM
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#14037
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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That's sad. This team could look so much different right now.
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12-21-2023, 08:23 PM
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#14038
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Article on trading Markstrom and I agree with multiple points especially the fact that he is playing better than his stats (and his stats are okay).
https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...cob-markstrom/
Freeing up cap space and getting a good return with younger players and picks. I hope Conroy is working those other GMs.
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12-21-2023, 08:24 PM
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#14039
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Franchise Player
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Boston is the worst trade partner for the flames unless you're getting Poitras which isn't happening.
Literally nothing much in their pipeline.
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12-21-2023, 09:02 PM
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#14040
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How much longer until Boston starts to fade? Are they gonna suck in 2025/26?
Get their 1st rounder for that year and maybe the Flames can get multiple tries at McKenna
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