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Old 12-21-2022, 01:00 PM   #241
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If he does go on waivers (he's still in the every day lineup so that's no imminent) would the Flames put in a claim for him?
I highly doubt it. I get the feeling Sutter doesn’t like him and we have a few young Dmen that can do what he does. Mackey, Gilbert, Desimone.

Flames need skilled forwards that can finish. Not a 6th or 7th defensman
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Old 12-21-2022, 01:19 PM   #242
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If he does go on waivers (he's still in the every day lineup so that's no imminent) would the Flames put in a claim for him?
While were on hypotheticals

If the Flames claimed him and immediately waived him, would he pass?
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Old 12-21-2022, 01:32 PM   #243
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While were on hypotheticals

If the Flames claimed him and immediately waived him, would he pass?
If the Flames claimed him and were the only team to put in a claim, they would be able to send him to the AHL as if he had cleared waivers at the start of the season.

The only way they would need to put him back on waivers would be if at least one other team also put in a claim, so you'd have to assume that other team would put in claim again a day later.
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Old 12-21-2022, 01:34 PM   #244
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Given only one team put a claim in last time, and everyone has had a chance to see him play since and he hasn't improved, I doubt anyone else would put in a claim.

That said, Sutter did not seem to be a fan so in this hypothetical I don't see the Flames putting in a claim.
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Old 12-21-2022, 04:38 PM   #245
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That train has sailed.
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Old 12-21-2022, 04:40 PM   #246
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That train has sailed.
To Salmon Arm!

Trains cant sail and Salmon dont have arms! Its madness!!
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too much cap was the issue in the first place and is still the issue
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Old 12-22-2022, 01:06 AM   #248
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too much cap was the issue in the first place and is still the issue
Just for shots and giggles, I went to CapFriendly and added up the total (projected) cap hits for each team.

The NHL as a whole is $10.3 million over the cap.

Seventeen teams are over the cap by a total of $85.0 million, and using LTIR to remain compliant. Fifteen teams are below the cap by a total of $74.7 million. The total available cap space is not enough to cancel out the total LTIR overage.

If you're a replacement-level player, or close to it, with a cap hit that can't be completely buried in the minors, you're a potential cap dump. It's a bad time for guys like Valimaki. Good on him for landing in Arizona; not so good for players like him whose teams are looking to unload contracts and finding no takers. (Hello, Edmonton!)

Suppose Arizona did put Valimaki on waivers, and the Flames claimed him and immediately sent him to the AHL. They would be left with $425,000 of his salary counting against their cap, which would instantly use up (calculate, calculate) 82 percent of their available cap space. They would essentially blow all their flexibility until the trade deadline for no benefit on the roster.

If, instead, they kept Valimaki and demoted Mackey or DeSimone, they would actually be over the cap and have to dip into LTIR themselves. At that point, they would have zero cap to spend at the deadline.
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Scored a nice little goal against Vegas last night. Good for him.
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Old 12-16-2023, 04:33 AM   #250
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...y/71936890007/

This does not sound good.
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Old 12-16-2023, 07:20 AM   #251
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Jesus that sounds awful
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Old 12-16-2023, 07:28 AM   #252
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That’s happened all the time to poor people

Of course, Valimaki is not poor and the Stars should have taken care of him
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Old 12-16-2023, 09:17 AM   #253
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Wow that's pretty bush league
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Old 12-16-2023, 10:31 AM   #254
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Oh man that’s not good, someone is in trouble
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Glad to hear that he is back playing after that.



You'd think that in a proft based medical model that he wouldn't have been dropped that far down in the triage. It sucks that your life can be in danger when a medical profesional decides that you are an inconvenience to their current schedule.
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Old 12-16-2023, 11:38 AM   #256
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Yeah… and that is ####ed up.
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I hope he's actually OK.....still burns my ...he isn't still a Flame. Honestly handled differently I think had he still been here our D corps would be incredible.

I hope he sues the arse off someone. Holy moly batman.
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Old 12-16-2023, 12:06 PM   #258
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I hope he's actually OK.....still burns my ...he isn't still a Flame. Honestly handled differently I think had he still been here our D corps would be incredible.



I hope he sues the arse off someone. Holy moly batman.
Hope he recovers completely and agree he wasn't given the best chance here. But, he has 6 points. No goals and 5 secondary assists. He was touted as an offensive defenceman wasn't he?
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Old 12-16-2023, 12:31 PM   #259
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Hope he recovers completely and agree he wasn't given the best chance here. But, he has 6 points. No goals and 5 secondary assists. He was touted as an offensive defenceman wasn't he?
Yeah. Can’t remember who it was on twitter but they were saying it was going to be a Martin St Louis like waiving mistake lol.
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Did St Louis force the Flames hand like Valimaki did? Can't remember well enough. Anyway, glad he at least gets a shot somewhere, but he was on his way to Rapid City here.
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