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Old 12-08-2023, 12:15 PM   #61
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these are always such silly posts



what GMs are 'offering' and what one of them will end up paying, are usually 2 different things
How so?

GM calls about Tanev, Conroy says I need a first, GM hangs up.

That means Tanev isn't worth a first in the current market.

Zero chance Conroy is waiting for a better offer.
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Old 12-08-2023, 12:17 PM   #62
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How so?

GM calls about Tanev, Conroy says I need a first, GM hangs up.

That means Tanev isn't worth a first in the current market.

Zero chance Conroy is waiting for a better offer.
tell us you don't do negotiations, without telling us you don't do negotiations
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tell us you don't do negotiations, without telling us you don't do negotiations
Whatever dude.

Maybe try not being a complete jerk all the time.
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Old 12-08-2023, 12:19 PM   #64
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How so?

GM calls about Tanev, Conroy says I need a first, GM hangs up.

That means Tanev isn't worth a first in the current market.

Zero chance Conroy is waiting for a better offer.
Maybe GM phones back.
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Old 12-08-2023, 12:21 PM   #65
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Personally, I don't think that Conroy wants to burn years of Pelletier, Wolf and Zary. It wouldn't surprise me if he is focusing on D+1 or D+2 players and less on 1sts.

I would guess that the ask for Tanev is a high risk/high ceiling C or D. Sort of a Poirier type.

For Hanafin and Lindholm I would guess a late first or second paired with a recent high pedigree prospect. Someone that went 12-24 in the last draft or 8-15 in the 2021 draft.
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How so?

GM calls about Tanev, Conroy says I need a first, GM hangs up.

That means Tanev isn't worth a first in the current market.

Zero chance Conroy is waiting for a better offer.
No one ever "hangs up" like that.

What happens is GM says "that's too much" and Conroy says OK, maybe we'll talk later after I take a few more calls and we get closer to the TDL.
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Old 12-08-2023, 12:22 PM   #67
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How so?

GM calls about Tanev, Conroy says I need a first, GM hangs up.

That means Tanev isn't worth a first in the current market.

Zero chance Conroy is waiting for a better offer.
It can mean many, many things. It could mean that Tanev isn't worth a first. It could mean he's worth a first but this particular GM doesn't want to pay that. And it could easily mean that this particular GM sim0ly wants to try and drive a hard bargain.

He may still be very willing to trade a first, but hopes not to.
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Old 12-08-2023, 12:26 PM   #68
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And, the closer teams get to the playoffs, the more comfortable they feel giving up draft picks and the better-able they are to fit contracts into their cap structure.

By the same logic, nobody on the block is worth anything because they haven’t been traded for anything yet. So, it’s kind of a pointless comment like “water is wet.”
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Old 12-08-2023, 12:35 PM   #69
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DeAngelo would be worth taking a chance on if the price was cheap, potentially flip later
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To SJ: Mangiapane, Ruzicka
To CGY: Ferraro, Duclair

I'd be onboard with something like that.

Then, after we deal Lindholm for futures, show me: Huberdeau - Zary - Duclair
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DeAngelo would be worth taking a chance on if the price was cheap, potentially flip later
Other than the cancer he brings that will radiate through the locker room.

Pass.
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