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Old 12-06-2023, 05:54 PM   #601
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Teams don't get jersey sale money other than retail markup in their stadium stores.
And I think direct through the team online store (not via MLB). A column I read from Simmons yesterday outlined that and said the Jays made $60M in merchandise sales over a couple years in 2015-16 that way.

If they sign him I fully expect Rogers to automatically force all their moble and internet customers' devices to shop at that Blue Jays shop.
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Old 12-06-2023, 06:14 PM   #602
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Freaked me out when I opened up TSN on the laptop and the first thing that popped up was a big picture of Ohtani with the Jays logo above the article. Had to scroll down for a second to realize he hadn't signed anywhere yet. Damn.
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Old 12-06-2023, 06:26 PM   #603
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Old 12-06-2023, 06:44 PM   #604
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Haha gotta love it. "Here is my pie chart of made up numbers I pulled out of my arse"

Hope he's right though.
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Haha gotta love it. "Here is my pie chart of made up numbers I pulled out of my arse"

Hope he's right though.
His pie chart yesterday was 30% Jays. So I like it better as the days go by! Lol
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Homer is the Blue Jays fanbase, and Santa's Little Helper is the Dodgers.

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Old 12-06-2023, 08:49 PM   #610
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:53 PM   #611
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Preller's an idiot

Why not wait until Ohtani decides and see if the teams bidding for him come in stronger after having missed out.
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That seems a bit steep for Soto, no? I’m okay with not paying that.
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Old 12-06-2023, 08:57 PM   #613
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While we are all waiting for disappointment, interesting read from the book about Ohtani.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=nNG...ohtani&f=false

He tried to dissuade the teams in the Japanese league to draft him back when because he wanted to play in MLB right out of high school. Japanese team that did draft him showed him clips of the ####ty part of minors in the US (where he would have to play at that time as was 19 or 20) long bus rides etc and how hard it would be to find a Japanese girl to date.

Edit: Talks too about the courting process back when he signed with Angels. Cubs, Dodgers,Giants, Mariners and Padres. How teams scrambled to make pool space (and Yankees had the most but were eliminated). How the Mariners were front runner until they weren't. How teams moved heaven and earth and got all their top player lined up to speak with him, especially the Dodgers... but again, all under a shroud of secrecey. Talk about how he wanted not to go to a large market. And money wasn't the driving force. How he wanted 27, but Trout has it (Vlad has it here). The Kickuchi relationship, him taking Kickuchi's number at the same high school after he left.
Really is fascinating.

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While we are all waiting for disappointment, interesting read from the book about Ohtani.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=nNG...ohtani&f=false

He tried to dissuade the teams in the Japanese league to draft him back when because he wanted to play in MLB right out of high school. Japanese team that did draft him showed him clips of the ####ty part of minors in the US (where he would have to play at that time as was 19 or 20) long bus rides etc and how hard it would be to find a Japanese girl to date.

Edit: Talks too about the courting process back when he signed with Angels. Cubs, Dodgers,Giants, Mariners and Padres. How teams scrambled to make pool space (and Yankees had the most but were eliminated). How the Mariners were front runner until they weren't. How teams moved heaven and earth and got all their top player lined up to speak with him, especially the Dodgers... but again, all under a shroud of secrecey. Talk about how he wanted not to go to a large market. And money wasn't the driving force. How he wanted 27, but Trout has it (Vlad has it here). The Kickuchi relationship, him taking Kickuchi's number at the same high school after he left.
Really is fascinating.
Thanks for this. Kikuchi being a major factor on getting Ohtani here is bigger than I thought.

Come play some ball with your HS buddy, Shohei.
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The Yankees know they only get to play 3 outfielders at a time right?

Why do they need Verduga, Soto, and Grisham?

They already have Stanton and Judge making a combined $72 MM next year. Even if you assume one DHs that's a lot of OF.
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Old 12-06-2023, 09:42 PM   #616
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That seems a bit steep for Soto, no? I’m okay with not paying that.
I actually think it is a bunch of decent pieces but only one real blue chip piece. It feels like quantity over quality - kind of Phaneuf trade-esque.
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I actually think it is a bunch of decent pieces but only one real blue chip piece. It feels like quantity over quality - kind of Phaneuf trade-esque.
For one year of Soto i didn’t think it was a little but I guess it wasn’t a lot either. Padres still the biggest losers considering what they paid to pry Soto away from the Nationals.
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For the second time before his 26th birthday, Juan Soto is on the move. The Yankees and Padres announced a trade sending Soto and fellow outfielder Trent Grisham from San Diego to the Bronx. The Friars receive five players — right-hander Michael King, top pitching prospect Drew Thorpe, right-handers Jhony Brito and Randy Vásquez, and catcher Kyle Higashioka — in return.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
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I bet Atkins and Shapiro were considering Ohtani for some time. Would be an interesting story down the road if we er get a true account when they’re both retired, that they got Kikuchi for that specific reason. Would show that they do have some long term plan. Also, now it makes sense why Atkins or the coaching staff weren’t fired as they wanted an ayr of stability coming into negotiations.
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Preller's an idiot

Why not wait until Ohtani decides and see if the teams bidding for him come in stronger after having missed out.
I was thinking the same. Guessing he told say, the Jays, about the price the Yanks were playing and the Jays probably said no way. He was probably happy with the Yanks offer and pulled the trigger. On the surface it looks like he should have held off, but maybe he had tells that the best offer was out there and he couldn’t squeeze out more.
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