[PGT] Wild 5 Flames 2

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by timbit

Wolf with the stellar .833 save %!

Maybe the goaltending is not the key issue, that most here believed.

One of the goals he let in Kadri literally took him out...

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

One an impossible play, one he was sabotaged on by one of his own.

Wolf did a fine job coming in relief of Vladar.

Give him more starts.

[Enoch Root]

They lost this game for 3 reasons:

1) Giveaways - blatant, fugly, relentless giveaways
2) One on one battles - they got outworked and out-hustled, all over the ice
3) Passing - they can't complete a pass to save their lives.

And because of those 3 things happening over and over, they never had the puck - Minny had it all night long.

Just a disgusting game. I hope the flu is at least partially to blame.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’ll be interesting to see the save percentage fixated folks dismiss it this time (but they will).

I am 100% certain that you can do better than this.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’ll be interesting to see the save percentage fixated folks dismiss it this time (but they will).

He's a ####ing rookie coming into a game the Flames had phoned in (except for a couple brief stints).

How do you think any talented goalie becomes an eventual starter in the NHL, that they enter the league with a .930 right off the bat and that's all she wrote?

[jg13]

Duehr is giving Jooris vibes and its kinda sad. Was a huge fan of what he brought last year. On some nights he was our best player near the end of the season.

Also given how thin our blue line is going to be after we move out Hanifin and Tanev out I would entertain a deal that involves Dube and Broberg. Especially since we'll be able to add Pelletier and Coronato shortly.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

He's a ####ing rookie coming into a game the Flames had phoned in (except for a couple brief stints).

How do you think any talented goalie becomes an eventual starter in the NHL, that they enter the league with a .930 right off the bat and that's all she wrote?

A lot of them actually do.

Goaltender is the one position where you can’t hide. We’ll find out soon what he really is. There are a few tough games coming up. Hopefully they don’t shelter him.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I just don't think the body of work is anywhere near adequate enough to form any sort of impression yet, especially given how the Flames showed in either game.

The Wild also let off quite a bit once they'd built their lead, so Wolf saw less shot volume than he would've had he started the game to buffer that %. They created an impossible to stop play on the PP then eased up on the shot volume for the most part. That doesn't help any goalie's numbers.

The fact that some people are entertaining the argument is pretty goofy to me. Wolf has earned his accolades at every level, the kid is as legit as they get. Yeah we'll find out what he really is, but it won't be in 2.67 games behind some putrid team efforts.

[Goriders]

I bet it’ll be this season though. One of markstrom or vladar are probably leaving. So he’s going to have more than 2.67 games at the end of the season.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Well Markstrom is out now for potentially a couple weeks, so Wolf will get his looks.

Frankly, I hope more games are given to Wolf than Vladar in this stretch. If that happens that's a good sign though, as it means he's shown well enough to take starts from the more experienced goalie.

[rooster]

Originally Posted by timbit

Wolf with the stellar .833 save %!

Maybe the goaltending is not the key issue, that most here believed.

I hope your kidding! One was a deflection he almost had and the other Kadri accidently took him out.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

Wolf was fine.

Good to see solovyov get reps.

Growing pains but we are on course to bottom out. Getting to a rebuild is gruelling business, especially if you don’t come out of it.

We are in for some bad hockey but I’m here for it. Last year was pathetic. I’m happy that mtl will take floridas pick this year and we may salvage that monohan trade yet.

Id resign Tanev but he would fetch a handsome return. He’d be a good locker room guy to mentor all the kids coming up over the next couple years. Get rid of hanifin. Get rid of lindy. Let’s embrace the suck finally. The top four this year are all tantalizing. I’m really sold on Celebrini and Lindstrom. Two dynamic centermen would really help this sad sack of a team.

Retain on kadri. See him for what you can get. At 5 million he’s got some value. At 3.5 he’s got more.

And I don’t think it’s savards fault. This group is so snakebit offensively. They have very little potency.

Sally forth with the tank commanding.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Lost to a lottery team

No team can consistently win without a top line

A lottery team with a better record than Calgary.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

The one retro game for Dube (vs VAN?)

But yeah, aside from that... it's a little pathetic when a rookie kid fresh off the AHL squad comes in and shows you up night after night as an NHLer.

To be fair , Zary was a 1st rounder. He is supposed to be better than them

But yeah, Dube and Mangiapane are contributing very little now

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They lost this game for 3 reasons:

1) Giveaways - blatant, fugly, relentless giveaways
2) One on one battles - they got outworked and out-hustled, all over the ice
3) Passing - they can't complete a pass to save their lives.

And because of those 3 things happening over and over, they never had the puck - Minny had it all night long.

Just a disgusting game. I hope the flu is at least partially to blame.

This is expected when you start trading the regular players

This team is not good enough or deep enough


You can’t have it both way.


Conroy needs to trade them all and tank for a rebuild

Or add and compete not subtract

[IceBergYYC]

Oettinger first 2 NHL starts:
W, 20/23, 59:52
W, 23/26, 59:57
Quick:
W, 15/17, 59:52
L, 14/18, 34:52
Rask:
W, 30/32, 60:00
W, 20/23, 60:00
Wolf:
W, 23/24, 59:54
L, 34/38, 59:45

But yeah, lets write him off. 7th round, 214th overall, absolute bust

[Tsawwassen]

Post game links
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/games/2566596/
https://www.espn.com/nhl/recap/_/gameId/401559615
https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/minnes...boxscore-40397

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by IceBergYYC

Oettinger first 2 NHL starts:
W, 20/23, 59:52
W, 23/26, 59:57
Quick:
W, 15/17, 59:52
L, 14/18, 34:52
Rask:
W, 30/32, 60:00
W, 20/23, 60:00
Wolf:
W, 23/24, 59:54
L, 34/38, 59:45

But yeah, lets write him off. 7th round, 214th overall, absolute bust

Nobody has said or even hinted at this.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’ll be interesting to see the save percentage fixated folks dismiss it this time (but they will).

Vladar had-1.35 goals saved above expected, which is terrible.
Wolf had-0.39 goals saved above expected, which is unremarkable.

Both had poor save percentages. Both had poor nights. Vladar's was especially bad.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Vladar had-1.35 goals saved above expected, which is terrible.
Wolf had-0.39 goals saved above expected, which is unremarkable.

Both had poor save percentages. Both had poor nights. Vladar's was especially bad.

Wolf didn’t have a bad night. That’s the point.