Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Haha, you just know that if they didn't send a delegation to COP the exact same people would be whinging about the UCP not taking the climate crisis seriously.

Nah. Buy hey, the necessary 100+ Alberta delegates to a single conference on the taxpayers' dime, a handful of them apparently unrelated to climate anything, at thousands of dollars per hotel room per night, and thousands more on flights per person, and not including what will inevitably be a very high food and drink tab, is worth it to hear to the president of the conference (and CEO of UAE's state-run oil company Adnoc, just by pure coincidence) say there is 'no science' behind the need for an eventual phase-out of fossil fuels, and doing so would 'take the world back into caves', right?

[Johnny Makarov]

Other than on Twitter, why hasn't this made headlines yet?

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Haha, you just know that if they didn't send a delegation to COP the exact same people would be whinging about the UCP not taking the climate crisis seriously.

…because they aren’t. This delegation is viewed as a delegation of deniers. They don’t appear to be there for the purposes of listening, learning, and engaging. Their are not viewed by the other participants as wanted or part of helping determine a solution. Their “marketing” of their participation is to refute science and reality. They aren’t saying they are there to help determine a solution or determine how, as a province with oil production, we can help in solving the climate crisis. I’m not sure they can even use those words. They are viewed in the same light as a delegation from friendsofscience.org. From looking at the published delegate list they are also the largest provincial delegation. The only other premier listed is Moe.

I support a delegation being at this event. It’s important to participate and have a voice. That can be accomplished with:
Robert Hamaliuk - Executive Direction, Air and Climate Policy
Cathryn Carruthers Director of Strategic Engagement, Premier's Office
Jamie Curran - Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy & Governance, Alberta Environment and Protected
Lawrence David Kaumeyer - Deputy Minister of Energy
Rebecca Schulz - Minister of Environment and Protected Areas

There are 25 delegates on the conference lists from The Government of Alberta. This is very high compared to other provinces. Because she went, two of her security detail needed delegate passes too. She doesn’t need to be there, she serves no purpose.

The Albanian government has about the same attendees…and as an aside, some dubious ones too. I’m expecting lots of images of Albania PM Edi Rama and a few trees worth of notes:
Ms. Egesta Murataj Note Keeper to the Prime Minister
Ms. Giulia Dajçi Photographer to the Prime Minister
Mr. Denis Vuka Cameraman to the Prime Minister

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Haha, you just know that if they didn't send a delegation to COP the exact same people would be whinging about the UCP not taking the climate crisis seriously.

Actually as someone who does complain that they don't take climate policy seriously, and thank you for calling it a crisis so at least we know we are speaking the same language.

I didn't complain about this at all. I used is as an opportunity to point out the hypocrisy of the right, where they expect us to be upset about this, and they would absolutely blow their lid over something like this from the left. But I am far more worried about their rampant and constant mismanagement of the long term fiscal capacity of our province, we do need to continue exploiting the industries we have now while they are exploitable, but we also need to look for every opportunity to pivot to something new for our future economy, and we need to actively work to lessen the demand for these resources in our own backyard for our own health, all three things need to be true at the same time, and when you only acknowledge the first two and only take action towards the first, you are not managing with a long term conservative prospective.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Other than on Twitter, why hasn't this made headlines yet?

The Post Media folks that were part of the 100-person delegate will put up a news article about it as soon as they're back from Dubai

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by boogerz

The Post Media folks that were part of the 100-person delegate will put up a news article about it as soon as they're back from Dubai

And it will be how Trudeau embarrassed Canada on the world stage and Alberta swooped in to save our economy.

[FurnaceFace]

You know it's bad when even the convoy freedumbers are calling her out....

https://twitter.com/user/status/1731173604736344104

[Muta]

I wonder what some of the hardcore right-wingers in the federal thread would think of this.

[BlackArcher101]

How big is the group the feds are sending?

[para transit fellow]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

After seeing the list its a real stretch to call them dignitaries.

Also, apparently the money wont be accounted for because the War Room is paying for it and we dont get to see that (even though its taxpayer money)

...and now we see the real reason the premier recently changed the MLA gift rules

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

How big is the group the feds are sending?

Total number of Canadian delegates for COP27 was a little over 400 including panelists, speakers etc. That's everyone from the Mayors to University Deans to MPs to CEOs to investment bankers. The Feds obviously dont pay for all the delgates.

From what I could see, Alberta only sent 6 or 7 AEP staff including Sonya Savage but it was in boring Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt not Dubai. Party time!

[#-3]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

You know it's bad when even the convoy freedumbers are calling her out....

https://twitter.com/user/status/1731173604736344104

Is there a reason there are 3 extra zeros on this, or is it that Freedumbers just don't know the difference between million and billion? It might go a long way to explain a lot of their grievances with the generic low level of government waste, while not being aggrieved by the exceptional level grift some of their heroes display.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by #-3

Is there a reason there are 3 extra zeros on this, or is it that Freedumbers just don't know the difference between million and billion? It might go a long way to explain a lot of their grievances with the generic low level of government waste, while not being aggrieved by the exceptional level grift some of their heroes display.

I think you know the answer.

[Fuzz]

If Justin Trudeau's salary was shared amongst all Canadians we could get an additional $3 million each. This is so unjust! #CRIMINALS

[belsarius]

Remember the days of Redford wasting money flying the government jet around for a few extra thousand bucks a month with her kid on board and Danielle Smith was up in arms demanding the government sell the whole fleet.

Yeah, good thing the days of conservative entitlement are behind us. Can't imagine what the response would be to that kind of waste today.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

How big is the group the feds are sending?

Numbers based on the delegates listed in the Parties and Party overflow tabs:
840 - Total people listed under nominator as "Canada".
Of that
112 - Listed as Gov of Canada
25 - Listed as Province of Alberta

Other prov governments
Quebec 8
Manitoba 1
Nfld 3
Ontario 7
Sask 15
NWT 1
BC was harder to identify but maybe 5. Other provinces werent specifically listed.
City of Calgary has none listed.

Brazil sent over 3000 people

The numbers in the spreadsheet are wild. There are easily 75000 names listed. There are almost 5000 "host country guests". The logistics of this must be incredible.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

...The logistics carbon footprint of this must be incredible.

Or that.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by #-3

Is there a reason there are 3 extra zeros on this, or is it that Freedumbers just don't know the difference between million and billion? It might go a long way to explain a lot of their grievances with the generic low level of government waste, while not being aggrieved by the exceptional level grift some of their heroes display.

Are they referring to the $1.8B investment by Alberta in the Dow net zero petrochemical plant that was just announced?

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...0c7060713/amp/

[GordonBlue]

So there is already a nursing shortage and they want to get rid of even more of them.

https://www.una.ca/1479/ahs-threat-t...MkhzdvePAJuMvo

United Nurses of Alberta is deeply concerned about the job security of frontline nurses after receiving a letter from Alberta Health Services warning the union about potential “reductions of positions” in 2024.

Alberta is facing a province-wide shortage of nurses. According to the AHS website, there are more than 20 hospitals and health care centres currently reporting temporary service disruptions due to staff shortages, including the Fort Macleod Health Centre emergency department, which was temporarily closed on December 4 due to a shortage of nurses.

because of privatization?

"The AHS letter and a letter from Covenant Health Senior Director of Labour Relations Monica Williams warn that organizational changes could include “changes to staff mix and service redesign, contracting out, changes or repurposing of sites or relocating, reducing or ceasing the provision of services.” "

[Fuzz]

Private providers must be having trouble finding nurses, so they have lobbied the government to layoff some of them.


Why yes, I am extremely cynical. But hey, morons voted for this, so yay us.