2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Was that a sarcastic post?

Hope so.

Not an ounce of sarcasm in the post at all. Just pure facts like always from me.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by traptor

Looks like Retool is off the menu. Welcome to more of the same.




Why wouldn't Conroy be open to retention?
We took a worse offer to not retain of Zadorov.
We very well might not be trading Hanifin.

Why woulnd't we use a retention slot for one season to get a better deal on Tanev?

Why is it an either or proposition?

We can keep Hanifin and still trade Lindy and Tanev.

I don’t understand why you have to be in one camp or the other.

Keep the players that want to be here long term and jettison those who don’t.

[dino7c]

Hanifin is the #1 dman on every trade list and upcoming UFA list

All homers like me I guess

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Why is it an either or proposition?

We can keep Hanifin and still trade Lindy and Tanev.

I don’t understand why you have to be in one camp or the other.

Keep the players that want to be here long term and jettison those who don’t.

Especially if they are in their prime years

Also signing a guy doesn't mean you can never trade them

[blender]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Not an ounce of sarcasm in the post at all. Just pure facts like always from me.

When you create your own reality, everything is a fact.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by traptor

Looks like Retool is off the menu. Welcome to more of the same.




Why wouldn't Conroy be open to retention?
We took a worse offer to not retain of Zadorov.
We very well might not be trading Hanifin.

Why woulnd't we use a retention slot for one season to get a better deal on Tanev?

If the team’s history is anything to go by, it’s because Edwards doesn’t do salary retention.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1730996572836528440

If he can be had for Pennies on the dollar and if we are moving d out, wouldn’t hurt to bring him in to help on pp. can always move him out at deadline for futures.

And to be clear, not at the expense of playing our young d. Could be a buy low sell high candidate.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Not trying to bash your intel but it doesn’t make sense to me. You are saying hanifin wanted to stay, was offered a huge contract, and for some reason didn’t jump at the chance to sign it? During this time that he was too busy to sign contract flames pulled out?

The other part seems plausible. I could see him signing contract if flames continue to play well.

I am saying they had the ground work for the extension and before anything could be signed the Flames backed off for now. If the Flames had not backed off the deal would have got signed.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Not an ounce of sarcasm in the post at all. Just pure facts like always from me.

Wasn't even debating your correctness.

Just an odd double pat on your own back with "covered" and "spot on" being a gringy flex.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If flames want great value on trading tanev then eating 50% is the way to go.

Tre wants retention he can pay for it. Good chance Tanev would resign there as well. Toronto is in a bad way on defense, and in goal.

Tanev (50%) + Vladar for Knies/Cowan + Samsonov

[Stanley]

As much as it’s a perfect scenario to sell high in Hanifin, you could also make a case for him being a core guy to keep long term especially seeing the style of active D on the offense the Flames are playing under Huska.

I’m all for selling high on him just saying if there’s one UFA you keep of the big 3 remaining I think it’s gotta be him over Lindholm, even tho Lindy isn’t really increasing his value at the moment unfortunately.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Tre wants retention he can pay for it. Good chance Tanev would resign there as well. Toronto is in a bad way on defense, and in goal.

Tanev (50%) + Vladar for Knies/Cowan + Samsonov

I doubt the Flames are taking back a goalie if the plan is to call Wolf up. They would probably just call up Murphy to the Wranglers rather than burying Samsonov in the minors.

[Sofa GM]

Also as much as I don’t love selling to the Oilers, but Tanev would be exactly the type of defenseman they need.

Tanev (50%) + 2024 4th for Foegele + Holloway + 2024 2nd

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Inferno

I doubt the Flames are taking back a goalie if the plan is to call Wolf up. They would probably just call up Murphy to the Wranglers rather than burying Samsonov in the minors.

Could try to run Samsonov for a month or so to see if he improves and then run him through waivers and send him down. Bring him back up near season end and see if you can get him playing well enough to get anything at the deadline.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Hanifin is the #1 dman on every trade list and upcoming UFA list

All homers like me I guess

This is one case I think everyone should agree on.

Hanifin is good, and young enough that he is likely still improving.

He’s one guy you can sign or trade, depends if he’s willing.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by traptor

Looks like Retool is off the menu. Welcome to more of the same.




Why wouldn't Conroy be open to retention?
We took a worse offer to not retain of Zadorov.
We very well might not be trading Hanifin.

Why woulnd't we use a retention slot for one season to get a better deal on Tanev?

Maybe he would be, that is why I said I am not sure. I have no idea if he would retain on Tanev or not.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Could try to run Samsonov for a month or so to see if he improves and then run him through waivers and send him down. Bring him back up near season end and see if you can get him playing well enough to get anything at the deadline.

I would rather just let it be Toronto's problem than to go through all of that. If they want to give up a cap dump atleast make it a position where that cap dump might be useful.

Bring Wolf up and let him stay.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

This is one case I think everyone should agree on.

Hanifin is good, and young enough that he is likely still improving.

He’s one guy you can sign or trade, depends if he’s willing.

Well this is what my "battle" with Spurs was about

par for the course though

[ResAlien]

If this org is changing direction on major extensions based on a few games then we’re in for the longest and darkest fan timeline. That’s clown franchise behaviour and I sure hope that info is wrong

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

If this org is changing direction on major extensions based on a few games then we’re in for the longest and darkest fan timeline. That’s clown franchise behaviour and I sure hope that info is wrong

I’m actually still luke warm on Hanifin, so if the Flames do extend, my judgement would be reserved based on what the deal looks like.

But not sure contract extensions should be viewed all in the same bucket. Hanifin is legit top 4 D and 26. Extending him is not the same as extending older players or more lower line up players (Zadorov) to long term extensions.