[Trade] Flames trade Zadorov to Canucks for 24 5th and 26 3rd

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

Flames media is sure trying their best to declare a good trade for us. But that's also their job.

It isn't a great trade, and probably not even a good one. It might be just OK if it pans out in the Flames' favor.

But the downside of it is also very minor. Like this is not a trade that's going to make or break what the Flames are trying to accomplish with their retool. In fact, it's probably going to be inconsequential altogether.

If you're making a fuss about it, you're were probably more in love with the player than was rational.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

So best to bitch that he won’t do it, as opposed to wait and see if he does right?

Yeah it’s best if we all just shut up and go away

[Trojan97]

Need to judge this trade based on the larger picture of what the team looks like post deadline. It's a gross return for now but if you turn the newfound cap space into another pick or prospect down the line because you have wiggle room to take on something undesirable at ther deadline then the trade suddenly looks alot better. I'm not sold on Conroy but I don't think this trade can be judged on its own. Gotta wait and see what else shakes out.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Moneyhands wasn't a WoS champion for nothing.

Sorry what?

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yeah it’s best if we all just shut up and go away

Some definitely should.

But no, it’s best to wait and see what else they do.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

It isn't a great trade, and probably not even a good one. It might be just OK if it pans out in the Flames' favor.

But the downside of it is also very minor. Like this is not a trade that's going to make or break what the Flames are trying to accomplish with their retool. In fact, it's probably going to be inconsequential altogether.

If you're making a fuss about it, you're were probably more in love with the player than was rational.

Or you are one of those posters that over reacts and complains about everything

[Gaskal]

Trying to will a Zadorov trade to be the type that "moves the needle" is unrealistic considering he didn't do anything during his Flames stint to prove he should be paid and given more than the minutes of a solid 4-5 guy... and we traded a 3rd for him in the first place

So essentially we at least got SOME return out of that investment even if it was just one extra 5th round pick

[Elkyiv]

Has Zadorov ever elaborated what it was about the team that made him request a trade?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

Has Zadorov ever elaborated what it was about the team that made him request a trade?

The Flames didn’t want to extend him on a long term contract

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by D as in David

This suggest that the Flames will have no one to trade with regardless of today's trade. How can having cap space be a bad thing? The Flames could be a facilitator of a trade between two other teams in the event that the Flames are on a particular player's NTC list.

They’ll be able to trade for picks, prospects, and roster players on their first contracts. But the great majority of veterans on most teams these days (the players with significant cap hits) have NTCs.

Cap space has value. But I’m struggling to think of an example where a team selling at the deadline leveraged that value.

[BigT112]

I give this trade 3.6 roentgen

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

Has Zadorov ever elaborated what it was about the team that made him request a trade?

Pretty clear why. Flames didn't make him a priority to re-sign. He was not on pace to match or exceed the number of goals he scored in 22/23 and felt he deserved more ice time than the other d-men so he would be in a better position to sign a contract in the summer.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

16 shots against tonight.

Flames sorely missing Zadorov in that game..

Probably their cleanest game defensively all year.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Or you are one of those posters that over reacts and complains about everything

If you have the examples to support this theory, I'll bite.

I don't think you do though.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If you have the examples to support this theory, I'll bite.

I don't think you do though.

That was a general you I think

[dino7c]

I'm wondering if some of you have watched Zadorov play this season

[Shazam]

Never heard of him.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Bonded

That was a general you I think

Whatever your issue is, maybe just get over it?

Sounds like it's nothing to do with this topic.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Pretty clear why. Flames didn't make him a priority to re-sign. He was not on pace to match or exceed the number of goals he scored in 22/23 and felt he deserved more ice time than the other d-men so he would be in a better position to sign a contract in the summer.

Yep.

And I bet some team will be willing to (over)pay him in the Summer…just glad it won’t be the Flames.

Loved his time here (warts and all), but not a contract this team can award.

(Conroy’s intermission interview talking about not having to retain any salary in this deal said a lot too…)

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If you have the examples to support this theory, I'll bite.

I don't think you do though.

Thought it was clear I wasn’t talking about you