[Trade] Flames trade Zadorov to Canucks for 24 5th and 26 3rd

[Erick Estrada]

When a positive Flames backer like Duhatschek calls it an underwhelming return you know it's not a great trade.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Not the type of return you get excited for but I think reflective of how Zadorov is viewed around the league and how sparse cap space is.
I get so confused about cap retention, but if indeed you can only retain cap on 2 players per year, it makes sense to keep that in play for Lindholm and Hanifin. Those are the deals that will really matter.

[All In Good Time]

Cap space is a valuable asset in today’s nhl
Zadorov is a 5th or 6th defender on this team

And

We are trading players who want to win for cap space while those who desire “fun” are extended and made captain

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Not the type of return you get excited for but I think reflective of how Zadorov is viewed around the league and how sparse cap space is.
I get so confused about cap retention, but if indeed you can only retain cap on 2 players per year, it makes sense to keep that in play for Lindholm and Hanifin. Those are the deals that will really matter.

3 players per year. You can view salary retention slots on cap friendly.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

lol why make the deal if this is all you can get

Guys like him get a 3rd easily at the TDL every year


Conroy lost another deal. Sad

??? Get a 3+5 now or wait and get a 3rd at TDL?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

3 players per year

3 contracts total at any one time, I believe.

[butterfly]

Remember when the Flames traded a 3rd round pick for a bottom pairing defenseman making $1.2M on an expiring deal?

Erik Gustafsson.

We just got a 3rd round & 5th round pick for a bottom pairing defenseman making $3.75M on an expiring deal.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Not the type of return you get excited for but I think reflective of how Zadorov is viewed around the league and how sparse cap space is.
I get so confused about cap retention, but if indeed you can only retain cap on 2 players per year, it makes sense to keep that in play for Lindholm and Hanifin. Those are the deals that will really matter.

If this is a springboard to a big trade with a notable return it will be worth it for sure. We have to hope that's the case here. Either way I was never a big fan of Zadorov so him gone is not a bad thing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

When a positive Flames backer like Duhatschek calls it an underwhelming return you know it's not a great trade.

Yeah he hasn’t been for a while now he’s out of touch with the new NHL.

Almost 4 million tied up in a replacement player isn’t good cap management.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

3 contracts total at any one time, I believe.

Yes, that's what I meant. There are 3 retention slots for 3 active contracts.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

It would be funny if TOR made a higher offer but it was Connie's FU to Brad for the mess he left here.

I'll take the higher offer.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yeah he hasn’t been for a while now he’s out of touch with the new NHL.

Almost 4 million tied up in a replacement player isn’t good cap management.

Oh please. I'm not high on Zadorov but if he was a replacement level player there certainly wouldn't have been all these teams that were interested in him.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by neo45

The return isn’t just bad it’s flat out embarrassing.

And the Toffoli trade was as well. At the time and now.


Yikes. He really could #### this thing up big time couldnt he?

The Toffoli trade was a win, not sure what you are thinking there.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Nobody wants to wait. That makes it less valuable for trading

We have seen it over and over in sports.

It's not like the Flames won't need to make trade next year or the year after when it gets closer to 2026.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

I would rather have kept him and resigned for 5 x5

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Yes, that's what I meant. There are 3 retention slots for 3 active contracts.

Right. I just thought the way you expressed it was a bit ambiguous. I think some people have the impression that you get new retention slots every season.

[cral12]

Originally Posted by Demzy84

Not taking any cap back and getting 2 picks? I like the trade. Get 3.75M in cap space now to potentially take on more in trades with Lindholm and/or Hanifin

This.

Would we have like to have gotten more? Yes.

Do we know what other GMs were offering? No. Obviously less than what we got.

Did Big Z Fata us over by spontaneously demanding a trade? Absolutely.

Can we judge Conroy by not knowing what other GMs had on the table? No. Totally unfair.

Did you read this post in a Peter Loubardias classic self-question and answer interview style? Well, one word = do it.

Big Z put him in a tough situation, he had to deal him, had to take the best of what was out there this far out from trade deadline (and looks he probably wanted to leave the 3 slots for retaining salary open).
2 picks. Let our amateur scouts do their thing (just don't pull a Jake Boltmann please, lads).
Sit back and watch Big Z both excite and infurate Nucks brass and fanbase. Move on.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

I would rather have kept him and resigned for 5 x5

Not sure if serious

[Blaster86]

Allvin is wild. Every time he says he wants to do something, he just.... goes out and does it. Without over spending too. It's amazing.

[FlamesAddiction]

Really, we are going to have to wait and see what happens with the big picture. If the cap space is used to maximize the return in other details, we can judge on how everything links together at that point. It will be a total assets in, versus total assets out, and not just one move in isolation.

Aside from that, I am also happy that we aren't doing Treliving any favours. If he wants our players, he needs to pay big time.