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[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

The flames have 40 games until the trade deadline. Imagine a crazy scenario where the flames go something like 27-8-5 in that time without trading or signing anyone. An insanely good record to be sure and something this team has really not shown to be capable of. This is just an stress-test hypothetical of the team’s resolve and commitment to not letting the UFAs walk to free agency. If the players still refused to re-sign 1 week before the trade deadline, everyone on the team is playing well, the team is firmly in a playoff spot, Lindholm leads the team in points, Hanifin leads the defence in scoring, Tanev is healthy, and Zadorov has rescinded his trade request… what do the flames do at the deadline in this scenario?

I imagine the most popular response on the forum will still be “trade them all - get young assets and build for the future because this team cannot beat the top teams in a playoff series.” And, honestly, that might still be my answer as well. But I really don’t know what management/ownership would do. How often has a team ever done that when in a solid playoff position at the TDL? With a record like that, Conroy could potentially sell ownership on the idea of still making the playoffs even after trading everyone but you’d hurt your chances of going deep if it’s all picks/prospects coming back.

Any trades with teams for the UFA’s will likely be a futures trade since those teams would not want to give up roster players that they need for playoffs. It would also mean the flames would preferentially want to trade with teams in the east so they won’t be helping to improve any teams in the west that they potentially could face in the playoffs.

Just a crazy scenario to consider.

No matter the record, I still want the UFAs to be sold. They told us at the beginning of the season they didn't want to re-sign here. Even with their minds changed, I would still rather trade them than retain them. A) We didn't make it to the WCF or a SCF with this group and B) We already have boat anchor contracts in Huberdeau and Kadri. In regards to defense, we have Weegar signed to an 8 year extension at a bargain, don't think we get the same for Hanifin. And I doubt Hanifin is getting better minutes than Andersson or Weegar.

Poirier, Pelletier, Coronato, Zary, Posposil, all need a spot in this lineup when all is said and done. We need to make room for them, WHILE grabbing assets to restock the cupboards. I would hate to bring all of those guys up without anyone with promise on the Wranglers. Conroy emphasized asset management in his presser, I just hope he still goes through with it and it wasn't lip service.

[dissentowner]

I find it funny that the Flames string some wins together and all of the sudden the rebuild crowd is in full panic mode lol.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I find it funny that the Flames string some wins together and all of the sudden the rebuild crowd is in full panic mode lol.

That is because the Flames might be dumb enough to sign Lindholm for 9.3 million dollars if they go on a run.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Is it typical Flames fashion?

The Flames haven’t said anything one way or another, and even insiders can’t get the story straight. Maybe you’re just projecting your own feelings onto the team.

I think he's referring to the teams performance which is very true.

Luckily I think Conroy has been around here long enough to not be fooled and has watched the team waste enough assets he's not going to do the same.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

That is because the Flames might be dumb enough to sign Lindholm for 9.3 million dollars if they go on a run.

There is no appetite on the Flames side to sign Lindholm to that deal, if there was it would have been done before the season started.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I find it funny that the Flames string some wins together and all of the sudden the rebuild crowd is in full panic mode lol.

Where is this happening because it isn't happening on this site?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I find it funny that the Flames string some wins together and all of the sudden the rebuild crowd is in full panic mode lol.

Well this is the Calgary Flames we are talking about. Given what happened just a few seasons ago with Gaudeau it's pretty understandable that some fans would be a little nervous. I'm personally not too worried as I feel they will all be moved by the deadline if not re-signed prior. Conroy said himself he wouldn't let that happen again and I really want to believe that because if it doesn't happen then the future is bleak for this franchise.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

There is no appetite on the Flames side to sign Lindholm to that deal, if there was it would have been done before the season started.

Lol that picture was yuge

Spoiler!

[Bingo]

My guess is they have set a limit for all four players and will pull the trigger when any of them is exceeded. I doubt there is a pause. I don't there's a re-think because of some recent winning.

If the team was really going for it and UFA's be damned they wouldn't have moved Toffoli before the season started.

They didn't want 5 guys to deal with and wanted to get one done. That suggests to me they also don't want to take the remaining four into the last day of the deadline.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If the team was really going for it and UFA's be damned they wouldn't have moved Toffoli before the season started.

I guess that is true. I still don't really trust them to sell fi they are in a playoff spot because they'd have to be on a heck of a run

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Where is this happening because it isn't happening on this site?

Sure it is.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Where is this happening because it isn't happening on this site?

Well it's obvious reading has never been a strength for you.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Where is this happening because it isn't happening on this site?

Oh, come on. Read the posts following whoever posted that Francis quote.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

There is no appetite on the Flames side to sign Lindholm to that deal, if there was it would have been done before the season started.

I agree. If we do re-sign our UFA's I believe priority will be on our back end. Zary, Pospisal, Coronato, Pelletier stepping in and while Lindholm has been fine this year, with Kadri and Backlund we are pretty much running 3 second lines.

I think Lindholm and Zadorov are gone and somehow with their returns they target a 21-26 year old center.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by MrMike

I agree. If we do re-sign our UFA's I believe priority will be on our back end. Zary, Pospisal, Coronato, Pelletier stepping in and while Lindholm has been fine this year, with Kadri and Backlund we are pretty much running 3 second lines.

I think Lindholm and Zadorov are gone and somehow with their returns they target a 21-26 year old center.

Tough to find those. You’ll need a quantity for quality trade and most teams have learned from the past that you shouldn’t trade your quality for quantity.

An expiring RFA who wants out of his team (Tkachuk) would be the target. Problem is Calgary isn’t Miami.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Where is this happening because it isn't happening on this site?

It happens here but is the overwhelming narrative by some vocal flames fans on Twitter. Some high school kids on there shamelessly cheering for tanking and losing their minds on the Dhaliwal moment about the Flames not wanting to trade Tanev/Zadorov because they are winning.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It happens here but is the overwhelming narrative by some vocal flames fans on Twitter. Some high school kids on there shamelessly cheering for tanking and losing their minds on the Dhaliwal moment about the Flames not wanting to trade Tanev/Zadorov because they are winning.

Off topic, but ever since Elon took over twitter the algorithm is feeding me these kids posts non stop and I can’t stand it.

They all have the exact same opinion on every thing that happens in the NHL. It’s a constant barrage of groupthink and panic

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If the team was really going for it and UFA's be damned they wouldn't have moved Toffoli before the season started.

I believe they needed to move at least one of them before the season for cap reasons.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I believe they needed to move at least one of them before the season for cap reasons.

Only $1.1M between Toffoli and Sharangovich.

They could have found another way to save that coin and keep their leading scorer if they had a go for it mentality.

[Vinny01]

Listening to the Chris Johnston PODCAST he is stating he thinks the Flames have already made the internal decision to trade all 4 of their pending UFA’s.