[News] Chicago terminating Perry's contract

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

A different burden of proof can be required for workplace discipline vs criminal law.

Several years ago someone inapproachably touched me (started tickling me). I reported it because it wasn't cool, and while he wanted terminated there were consequences including being moved office buildings etc. No one called the cops of it.

Now, I'm sure what the Perry thing is a level about it, but it may or may not be criminal. Who knows. As I said, different burden of proof. The question is though did the Hawks investigation turn up enough? Will the PA appeal etc.


EDIT: TLDR what Jason said.

I just don’t know the police were called at all. Normally the law takes time to work its way through to charge a person then drop the charge. To investigate this and wrap it up that quickly tells me it wasn’t anything about touching. Again, I could be wrong but the clues aren’t there alluding to that

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

If someone violated your bodily autonomy in any way would you want to seem them around the office/rink? Or would you rather your employee support you and removed the person who crossed a line?

Well of course, and anywhere else that person would be fired.

But this is the NHL, and the NHLPA we are talking about. You can be accused for beating your wife, raping a player, or teaming up on a girl, and as long as it ain't public knowledge, nobody actually cares.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well of course, and anywhere else that person would be fired.

But this is the NHL, and the NHLPA we are talking about. You can be accused for beating your wife, raping a player, or teaming up on a girl, and as long as it ain't public knowledge, nobody actually cares.

Your confusing the team being able to terminate and always wanting to terminate

Just like in real business the more valuable you are the more benefit of the doubt you get .

Why would Chicago care to see old man Perry go to treatment , etc ? He’s done in the league at his age

Terminate and move on . As long as they had proof all parties involved will see this go away

Perry probably agreed not to appeal as long as the details stay quiet

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well of course, and anywhere else that person would be fired.

But this is the NHL, and the NHLPA we are talking about. You can be accused for beating your wife, raping a player, or teaming up on a girl, and as long as it ain't public knowledge, nobody actually cares.

Hopefully it’s changing

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Your confusing the team being able to terminate and always wanting to terminate

Just like in real business the more valuable you are the more benefit of the doubt you get .

Why would Chicago care to see old man Perry go to treatment , etc ? He’s done in the league at his age

Terminate and move on . As long as they had proof all parties involved will see this go away

Perry probably agreed not to appeal as long as the details stay quiet

I get that.

Not really disagreeing with you, but just saying that the team who covered up rape by a coach suddenly saying Perry violated his player clause agreement and turfing him, I just remain skeptical.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well of course, and anywhere else that person would be fired.

But this is the NHL, and the NHLPA we are talking about. You can be accused for beating your wife, raping a player, or teaming up on a girl, and as long as it ain't public knowledge, nobody actually cares.

The Blackhawks are going to be extra sensitive to this. Worst case now is they pay the balance of what they owe Perry and say they were just trying to do the right thing. If they sat on this info, didn't act, and it turns out to be true then would get raked through the coals.

Kane was never charged and his contract was terminated

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Azure

I get that.

Not really disagreeing with you, but just saying that the team who covered up rape by a coach suddenly saying Perry violated his player clause agreement and turfing him, I just remain skeptical.

I look at it the opposite way - if any team is likely to over react it would be Chicago after all the incidents

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Azure

I get that.

Not really disagreeing with you, but just saying that the team who covered up rape by a coach suddenly saying Perry violated his player clause agreement and turfing him, I just remain skeptical.

You want them to change. They are doing just that. You’re not happy.

Not following you.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by sharkov

Breaking news: oilers sign Perry and cancel moms trip

Dude. The Oilers wouldn't cancel the moms' trip after signing Perry. If anything, they'd have 3 or 4 more of them to keep him happy.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Could be consensual touching but with a person the club deems inappropriate to do so with.

Unless that person was underage that is none of the clubs business and would not be grounds to terminate a contract. The NHLPA would slam dunk that.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

from dailyfaceoff:

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/bl...ain-unanswered

Even aside from what happened, how much do these guys drink the night before a game??

My hangovers last about 3 days, can't imagine playing an NHL game the day after a bender.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Even aside from what happened, how much do these guys drink the night before a game??

My hangovers last about 3 days, can't imagine playing an NHL game the day after a bender.

3 days!!!

Just slam a beer when you wake up and you should be good to go. Not always the best idea because you just start feeling better and slamming more.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

1) snip... Maybe 15 years ago you give a tongue lashing, but it probably should have been more then imo.

Phrasing?

[GullFoss]

I'm gonna go with a racist rant after they cut him off at the bar.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Goriders

You want them to change. They are doing just that. You’re not happy.

Not following you.

I'm not naive enough to think that they actually give a ####.

Hence remaining skeptical of the entire thing.

In the past, the Blackhawks have only acted when they got caught.

IMO this entire thing is way bigger and they trying to bury it by burying Perry.

[Ashes]

Corey Perry on Waivers?!



"###### RIGHTS boys, set his stall up right next to Kaner"

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I'm gonna go with a racist rant after they cut him off at the bar.

If that was the case, I would think the Hawks would have leaked that already to completely shut down the rumours. The fact they are keeping it quiet suggests privacy is a concern for another individual, which wouldn't really be the case if he just pulled a Mel Gibson.

When asked if the increased diligence since the Beach scandal helped bring this recent incident to light, Davidson said that he thinks it helped.

Those things together sound like some kind of sexual misconduct or assault of some kind where another victim had to come forward, and now the Hawks want to protect that person from attention. If it was anything else, I think they would just say what it is to kybosh all the false Bedard rumours.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

from dailyfaceoff:

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/bl...ain-unanswered

Big shocker that Seravalli is all over this.

Garbage site loves stuff like this.

It's all about the clicks

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

from dailyfaceoff:

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/bl...ain-unanswered

That has left many other team executives and agents to wonder whether Perry’s alleged misconduct would have risen to the same level in any other organization outside of Chicago, which is still reeling and sensitive from a 2021 independent investigation revealed that Blackhawks executives covered up an alleged sexual assault committed in 2010 by team video coach Brad Aldrich.

I mean, I’m happy they acted quickly but it would not surprise me at all if Perry was made an example of because of this. We don’t know much about the supposed incident and perhaps this was an appropriate response but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Hawks felt like coming down hard on Perry was a way to make amends for their handling of the Beech incident.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Big shocker that Seravalli is all over this.

Garbage site loves stuff like this.

It's all about the clicks

What is wrong with it? Seems like a well written sports article to me. Every sports site has writers looking at this, are they all garbage sites?