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				Wills was saying on the radio that Francis is reporting that the Flames have now put trades on hold? Look I can get behind not going full tank mode but I need this team to move their 4 UFA’s and hopefully a goalie for younger assets and futures. If there is only one guy you keep it is Hanifin but at $7.5M I still think he is better used as a trade asset. 
			
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Didn’t they put trades on hold a week or so ago, mainly due to the offers not being satisfactory?  
 
I don’t think the last week changed that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 08:24 PM
			
			
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				They've won a few games now, they're contenders! You know deep down, they're going to go for it and at least one UFA will walk for nothing. 
			
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Walking one ufa to free agency is probable 
It would also not be a disaster 
Walking most or all of them to free agency would be
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 08:24 PM
			
			
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			This is what Francis said in his latest piece 
 
Fighting their way back into the race means all decisions on UFA signings or trades of players like Elias Lindholm, Noah Hanifin, Nikita Zadorov and Chris Tanev are almost certainly on hold until at least the midway mark of the season.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 08:26 PM
			
			
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			So the Flames decide and change  the future direction of the franchise every two weeks ! I for one am shocked that they haven’t been more successful over the past 30 years.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 08:37 PM
			
			
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				So the Flames decide and change  the future direction of the franchise every two weeks ! I for one am shocked that they haven’t been more successful over the past 30 years. 
			
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Yeah, that's not what on hold means.
 
But let's jump straight to outrage anyway
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 09:04 PM
			
			
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				Yeah, that's not what on hold means. 
 
But let's jump straight to outrage anyway 
			
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You have a weird definition of outrage .
 
And they have gone from trying to sign UFAs , to trade UFAs to hold and see in the first 20 games 
 
Bad franchises stay bad for a reason !
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 09:15 PM
			
			
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			If other teams are attempting to discuss trades for the pending UFAs, these discussions should absolutely not be on hold.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 09:19 PM
			
			
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			Trade deadline is in March. What’s the rush?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 09:25 PM
			
			
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			They also shouldn't tell the media their every move 
 
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			11-28-2023, 09:31 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jiri Hrdina
					 
				 
				This is what Francis said in his latest piece 
 
Fighting their way back into the race means all decisions on UFA signings or trades of players like Elias Lindholm, Noah Hanifin, Nikita Zadorov and Chris Tanev are almost certainly on hold until at least the midway mark of the season. 
			
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Don’t really love that unless it’s a head fake
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 09:47 PM
			
			
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				Didn’t they put trades on hold a week or so ago, mainly due to the offers not being satisfactory?   
 
I don’t think the last week changed that. 
			
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Wills said on Flames talk today that Francis reported the Flames put trade talks on hold and Pat seemed surprised by the news. 
 
I assume it is Francis saying his opinion like it is fact but he doesn’t know. It is my most disliked thing about Francis where he makes these statements about the Flames like he knows what he is talking about and completely misses the mark. Andersson captain, Hartley fired for Boudreau are just 2 that quickly pop to my mind.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 09:51 PM
			
			
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				Wills said on Flames talk today that Francis reported the Flames put trade talks on hold and Pat seemed surprised by the news.  
 
I assume it is Francis saying his opinion like it is fact but he doesn’t know. It is my most disliked thing about Francis where he makes these statements about the Flames like he knows what he is talking about and completely misses the mark. Andersson captain, Hartley fired for Boudreau are just 2 that quickly pop to my mind. 
			
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Well, FWIW I know for sure the reporting was that they were not engaging in talks for a while (the team was struggling at the time).  The sense was the bids were bad.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 10:32 PM
			
			
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				Trade deadline is in March. What’s the rush? 
			
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There isn't a rush from the Flames perspective, but there may be more urgency for a contending team looking to add. 
 
The sooner the deal gets done, it allows for more time for the incoming player to get used to the team, systems, rink, city, etc.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-28-2023, 11:27 PM
			
			
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			It isn't that there is a rush, but I would hate to wait for the ultimate deal that you think is coming and then other teams go elsewhere and then you are left without a dance partner or settling for less.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 11:31 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jiri Hrdina
					 
				 
				This is what Francis said in his latest piece 
 
Fighting their way back into the race means all decisions on UFA signings or trades of players like Elias Lindholm, Noah Hanifin, Nikita Zadorov and Chris Tanev are almost certainly on hold until at least the midway mark of the season. 
			
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Francis eh.
 
So in other words, they'll all be dealt next week.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 11:31 PM
			
			
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			Trades weren't likely to happen yet anyways...easier to Fit in players closer to the deadline.  
 
Leafs and Canucks were maybe the only ones that you could have caught in desperation due to their injuries to dmen...but they've been able to stay afloat so far.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 11:31 PM
			
			
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				It isn't that there is a rush, but I would hate to wait for the ultimate deal that you think is coming and then other teams go elsewhere and then you are left without a dance partner or settling for less. 
			
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Do you see another Elias Lindholm available somewhere?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 11:33 PM
			
			
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				Wills said on Flames talk today that Francis reported the Flames put trade talks on hold and Pat seemed surprised by the news.  
 
I assume it is Francis saying his opinion like it is fact but he doesn’t know. It is my most disliked thing about Francis where he makes these statements about the Flames like he knows what he is talking about and completely misses the mark. Andersson captain, Hartley fired for Boudreau are just 2 that quickly pop to my mind. 
			
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He's been wrong about just about everything Flames over the last couple years.
 
Signings/non signings, and most recently the captaincy ("expect Andersson to be named")
 
The funny part is he's had a coin flip's chance of being right on most things, and still gets it wrong.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 11:39 PM
			
			
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				Do you see another Elias Lindholm available somewhere? 
			
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Not immediately but closer to the deadline, there will be other sellers
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-28-2023, 11:43 PM
			
			
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				Trades weren't likely to happen yet anyways...easier to Fit in players closer to the deadline.  
 
Leafs and Canucks were maybe the only ones that you could have caught in desperation due to their injuries to dmen...but they've been able to stay afloat so far. 
			
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I could also see Buffalo, maybe Pittsburgh doing something. Teams that are in a playoffs now or bust type position. 
CBJ as well; though they're way too terrible to fix quickly. 
And Edmonton of course for a goalie.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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