[GT] Flames at Stars

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW

It was a nice shot. Just not great when its goal 2 on 5 shots 120 seconds acter we tied it.

That's true. You can thank the Captain for that one. Needless, ridiculous play by the blueline. It's all on him.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I really, really, REALLY dislike Jamie Benn.

Really, I don't. I fn HATE Jamie Benn! More than anyone else in the league. F that piece of garbage.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gaudreau in game 7 was a bad goal according to some of you

Ottinger blew it

If it was a 2nd goal on the 5-7th shot then yeah. I'm pretty sure he was making around 40+ saves a game at that point.

[GioforPM]

Outlet passes are no good.

[timbit]

Markstrom is the reason Flames are still in the game.

[Manhattanboy]

Stars are a green machine.

[FanIn80]

I know Huberdeau's been a lot better lately and Gaudreau has... well... not...

One of the key differences between the two is that Huberdeau seems to pass the puck to where the player "should be" if the player was as skilled (or offensively aware) as he is. Gaudreau, however, puts it where the player is.

That's (in my mind) what made Gaudreau able to put up points with anyone when he was here in Calgary (I don't know what the deal is with him in Columbus though). Also when he played for BC. Up and down the lineup, he adapted his game to work with anyone. Slow players, fast players, passers, shooters... etc.


I am not slagging Huberdeau. I'm a big fan of him starting to the corner and find his game again!

[dino7c]

Flames had their chances that period

[St. Pats]

Good grief we are going to give up six plus tonight. So stinkin weak we can't fire the puck out when we are five feet from the blueline. Guys wide open in front of Markstrom all period long.

[FanIn80]

I LOVE that Huberdeau shot the puck there. Just not every shot has to pick the corner to the point that you miss the net. We had someone wide open there for a rebound if the goalie had been forced to make a save.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Don't love the effort from Andersson there defensively, too soft on Robertson and gaVe him too much space.

Also never going to love those goals if I was a goalie.

I thought Andersson made a good play to deny Robertson a shot from the slot and force him outside...

It was a nice shot but Markstrom needs some awareness of who the shooter is.

Okay period. Bad start and finish. Pretty good in the middle 10 minutes.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I know Huberdeau's been a lot better lately and Gaudreau has... well... not...

One of the key differences between the two is that Huberdeau seems to pass the puck to where the player "should be" if the player was as skilled (or offensively aware) as he is. Gaudreau, however, puts it where the player is.

That's (in my mind) what made Gaudreau able to put up points with anyone when he was here in Calgary (I don't know what the deal is with him in Columbus though). Also when he played for BC. Up and down the lineup, he adapted his game to work with anyone. Slow players, fast players, passers, shooters... etc.


I am not slagging Huberdeau. I'm a big fan of him starting to the corner and find his game again!

I can’t agree with this at all. Gaudreau’s forte was the area pass - putting it where a guy (say, Wideman) was going to be. He did the same with Monahan - putting it to the slot where Monahan was going.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I know Huberdeau's been a lot better lately and Gaudreau has... well... not...

One of the key differences between the two is that Huberdeau seems to pass the puck to where the player "should be" if the player was as skilled (or offensively aware) as he is. Gaudreau, however, puts it where the player is.

That's (in my mind) what made Gaudreau able to put up points with anyone when he was here in Calgary (I don't know what the deal is with him in Columbus though). Also when he played for BC. Up and down the lineup, he adapted his game to work with anyone. Slow players, fast players, passers, shooters... etc.


I am not slagging Huberdeau. I'm a big fan of him starting to the corner and find his game again!

I think Huberdeau just needs players that are always in motion driving towards the net, and not along the boards. I don't know if I trust our pro scouts to find those guys though.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

If it was a 2nd goal on the 5-7th shot then yeah. I'm pretty sure he was making around 40+ saves a game at that point.

Well, it lost the series, so arguably a more important save to make.

I’m at a loss as to how number of shots previously affects the quality of a shot.

[dino7c]

Flames had tons of chances

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I can’t agree with this at all. Gaudreau’s forte was the area pass - putting it where a guy (say, Wideman) was going to be. He did the same with Monahan - putting it to the slot where Monahan was going.

To me, that was just adapting to a player who he knew was going to be there. Monahan and Wideman both had very good offensive instincts. I remember seeing him out there with 3rd or 4th liners when he was double-shifted or just incomplete shift changes, and he always seemed to know when he needed to put it directly on the tape or (as you pointed out) put it in an open area.


Edit: Although, I see what led you to make that point. I wasn't very clear about the "adapting" part, making it seem like I meant he'd adapt to anyone to put the puck on their stick.

[direwolf]

Stars are a very good hockey team. Flames are in tough to win this game, but thankfully they're only down by 1. Just gotta get the tying goal and then build off it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

To me, that was just adapting to a player who he knew was going to be there. Monahan and Wideman both had very good offensive instincts. I remember seeing him out there with 3rd or 4th liners when he was double-shifted or just incomplete shift changes, and he always seemed to know when he needed to put it directly on the tape or (as you pointed out) put it in an open area.

He missed more high danger passes than he made (or they were flubbed). We only remember the goals, not the misses, as time goes by. When Monahan lost his mojo, the passes became flubs in the slot.

I don’t think he passed to too many stationary guys when they were going well.

Huberdeau had 40 assists last year, which was a brutal year for him. Gaudreau had the same number in 20-21 I think. It wasn’t all roses here.

[Moneyhands23]

At this point markstrom is worth a 2nd and b prospect with 1 mil retained.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, it lost the series, so arguably a more important save to make.

I’m at a loss as to how number of shots previously affects the quality of a shot.

It was a low danger chance therefore it was a bad goal.

However it was slightly different than the one on Markstrom. There was a rebound that went to Gaudreau right before, significantly reducing the time Oettinger(sp) had to set up.

Also, Oettinger was the one player holding Dallas in that series, so he gets a pass on being less than perfect. A goals timing affects a lot, including the player's confidence. If he was letting such goals in the beginning of games in that series it wouldn't go to 7 games IMO.