11-23-2023, 06:08 PM
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#11361
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Corey Perry has a cap hit of $4M. The Oilers can't afford him.
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11-23-2023, 06:19 PM
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#11362
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getoverit
Corey Perry released by Chicago saying organizational decision
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Scratched not released. He can’t be released.
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11-23-2023, 06:21 PM
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#11363
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Franchise Player
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I saw an interesting pair of Oiler rumors today:
1. Carter Hart for Skinner + 1st
2. Campbell to CHI with Broberg + a high pick for FC
https://twitter.com/user/status/1727729109541982676
That looks very risky. Hopefully they go through with their all in. I think it will backfire spectacularly.
I don't know anything about the source. It could just be the usual BS.
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11-23-2023, 06:23 PM
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#11364
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Why would Philly trade Hart when they’re tied for a wildcard spot. No wait, why would Philly trade Hart full stop.
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11-23-2023, 06:28 PM
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#11365
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Why would Philly trade Hart when they’re tied for a wildcard spot. No wait, why would Philly trade Hart full stop.
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because Philly is committed to a bigger picture/larger overhaul to redefine what success looks like for their organization, and being in competition for a wildcard spot means absolutely nothing. Philly wants to become a top team. Being in competition for a wildcard can literally happen by accident. It's not hard.
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11-23-2023, 06:30 PM
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#11366
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Why would Philly trade Hart when they’re tied for a wildcard spot. No wait, why would Philly trade Hart full stop.
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I always thought Hart was a pretty average goalie. I'd even argue bottom of the league when it comes to starters. Admittedly I don't watch the Flyers often, and Hart has okay numbers so far this season, but that Oilers first can be a pretty high pick. Especially if PHI is considering staying the course for a rebuild.
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11-23-2023, 06:32 PM
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#11367
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Why would Philly trade Hart when they’re tied for a wildcard spot. No wait, why would Philly trade Hart full stop.
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To get that 2024 1st
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11-23-2023, 06:33 PM
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#11368
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Help, save, whatever.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Why would Philly trade Hart when they’re tied for a wildcard spot. No wait, why would Philly trade Hart full stop.
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Skinner probably looks a lot better playing for Philly than the tirefire defence of the Oilers. Plus they get the 2024 1st which could end up being Top 5. I'd be all over that if I'm Phiily.
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11-23-2023, 06:35 PM
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#11369
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Why would Philly trade Hart when they’re tied for a wildcard spot. No wait, why would Philly trade Hart full stop.
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Skinner +1st this year is a serious offer. Skinner did have a strong year last year and that 1st could be top 10. Even if Broberg was in the deal I feel like the Oilers need another 1st to dump Campbell. I assume it would be someone like Perry being the return.
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11-23-2023, 06:40 PM
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#11370
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Franchise Player
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So those trade proposals would mean that the Oilers trade:
Skinner + Campbell + Broberg + 1st + high pick (24 2nd or 25 1st) for... Hart
LOL
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11-23-2023, 06:42 PM
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#11371
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Zero chance Philly trades Hart.
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11-23-2023, 06:45 PM
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#11372
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
because Philly is committed to a bigger picture/larger overhaul to redefine what success looks like for their organization, and being in competition for a wildcard spot means absolutely nothing. Philly wants to become a top team. Being in competition for a wildcard can literally happen by accident. It's not hard.
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Goalies tend to develop their potential later on and Carter Hart is 25. Unless the Oilers offer is unreal the Flyers are not trading Carter Hart.
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11-23-2023, 06:46 PM
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#11373
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Zero chance Philly trades Hart.
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What makes him so good in your eyes? Or is it only because they're in a WC spot?
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11-23-2023, 06:47 PM
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#11374
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Skinner +1st this year is a serious offer.
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Briere hangs up. Hart still has franchise goalie potential, that isn't enough.
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11-23-2023, 06:48 PM
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#11375
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Zero chance Philly trades Hart.
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I suspect you’re right. I would be shocked.
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11-23-2023, 06:49 PM
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#11376
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
What makes him so good in your eyes? Or is it only because they're in a WC spot?
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He has a 2.47 GAA and a 0.915 save percentage with a bottom 5 D group in the league and is only 25. The Oilers are not getting him for a backup goalie and a lottery protected 1st.
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11-23-2023, 06:52 PM
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#11377
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Briere hangs up. Hart still has franchise goalie potential, that isn't enough.
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I don’t know he is 25 and still has upside but if the Flyers are in a rebuild and land a top 10 pick. Skinner and Hart are the same age and have similar career numbers albeit Hart has 3x as many games and is having a much better season this year.
If Hart doesn’t turn the Oilers around they could be getting a franchise Dman with that pick and Skinner might end up being as good or in a similar tier as Hart. If there is little to no protection I think it is a trade the Flyers might look at.
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11-23-2023, 06:53 PM
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#11378
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getoverit
Corey Perry released by Chicago saying organizational decision
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Scratched not released. He can’t be released.
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Hi can be if he breaches his contract.
It's being reported that after being scratched, he was AWOL from practice. The Blackhawks are being very hush about it.
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11-23-2023, 07:03 PM
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#11379
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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Betcha Skinner would put up better numbers in Philly than Hart would in Edmonton. Seriously.
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11-23-2023, 07:03 PM
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#11380
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
He has a 2.47 GAA and a 0.915 save percentage with a bottom 5 D group in the league and is only 25. The Oilers are not getting him for a backup goalie and a lottery protected 1st.
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He is 40th and 41st in GSAx on moneypuck and evolving hockey respectively. 0.915 is good, but is far from amazing. That's an 11 games stretch. He had a .907, .905, and .877 in the previous 3 years.
I understand he's young, and as I said I don't watch the Flyers much, but what makes him that special? Skinner as a 24 year old had a .914 season with the Oilers last year, and .913 the year before that.
Finally, Tort's system is usually quite good defensively. Moreover, Seeler - Walker(1.73) and Sanheim - York are(2.3) both playing quite well as pairings and have a better xGA/60 than any pairing on the Flames except Hanifin - Tanev(1.87).
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just analyzing it from a spreadsheet so to speak, so I don't see what makes Hart special.
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