Loki TV Series 2021

[octothorp]

Loved this as a series (and character) ending for Loki, but definitely wished they had another season before they got to this point.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Loved this as a series (and character) ending for Loki, but definitely wished they had another season before they got to this point.

Yeah, me too. I gotta admit, the 'Buddy Cop' scenes with Loki and Morbius were pretty good!

[Sr. Mints]

I'm starting to think I'm just not bright enough to keep up with multiverse plots.

So how was it Kang was around in Ant-Man 3? Is that a different Kang?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Sr. Mints

So how was it Kang was around in Ant-Man 3? Is that a different Kang?

Mobius touched on it just before he left the TVA.

He told B-15 that one of the variants of He who remains caused a ruckus in a realm adjacent to 616 (the main MCU universe) but they (implied to be Antman and Wasp) handled it.

[Harry Lime]

I really enjoyed the Terry Gilliam-esque nature of the whole second season.

Unexpectedly sad and touching at the end, Loki ended up having the best overall character arc.... in the entire MCU?

[FireGilbert]

Didn't get around to posting after I watched but yeah that was a great final and character arc for Loki.

Loved the time travel stuff although the multiverse stuff sometimes makes my eyes glaze over. Was worried Sylvie was being pushed aside but then there she was at the end with a very important role. Enjoyed the return to S1 that somehow made that season better in retrospective.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I really enjoyed the Terry Gilliam-esque nature of the whole second season.

Unexpectedly sad and touching at the end, Loki ended up having the best overall character arc.... in the entire MCU?

Tony Stark, IMO. However, I think Loki's arc is equally as impressive.

[Coach]

Nebula’s arc is low key really dope.

[Harry Lime]

One thing that did stick with me a bit was that the entire main MCU knows nothing about what happened during this series. I could only imagine how proud Thor would be, and that Loki is twice the hero Thor is, given the weirdness of the last movie.

Only some random kangs, mobius and sylvie might wander around the main universe knowing of lokis sacrifice. Like I said, very sad.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

One thing that did stick with me a bit was that the entire main MCU knows nothing about what happened during this series. I could only imagine how proud Thor would be, and that Loki is twice the hero Thor is, given the weirdness of the last movie.

Only some random kangs, mobius and sylvie might wander around the main universe knowing of lokis sacrifice. Like I said, very sad.

It’s interesting as he also gets exactly what he wants which is total power. But he gains it through self sacrifice and empathy instead of vengeance and anger. Pretty cool way to round him out. I think there will be a time when the Avengers have to visit Loki Reality Spinner for some reason.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Finished this yesterday. Immediate thought:

Londo Mollari: Isn't it strange, G'Kar? When we first met I had no power and all the choices I could ever want. And now I have all the power I could ever want and no choices at all. No choice at all.

Anyway I don't really get why Sylvie is content with this resolution... Loki doesn't REALLY give people free will. It's the same situation as was there before, with him in place of HWR and the TVA now enforcing his tree-based vision of the multiverse instead. I guess it allows for more varied timelines maybe but that's really just a matter of degree.

Good show regardless.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Overall I liked the finale and season as a whole, but one big problem I had with it was how Earth centric everything was. We got to see Loki bounce around lots of different places in season 1, but everything in S2 was just a different time period on Earth. The TVA is responsible for all the timelines in the entire multiverse, so why is everyone in it a human? And why would a variant of an Asguardian god choose a McDonalds in Oklahoma for her "regular life" escape?

[Sr. Mints]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Overall I liked the finale and season as a whole, but one big problem I had with it was how Earth centric everything was. We got to see Loki bounce around lots of different places in season 1, but everything in S2 was just a different time period on Earth. The TVA is responsible for all the timelines in the entire multiverse, so why is everyone in it a human? And why would a variant of an Asguardian god choose a McDonalds in Oklahoma for her "regular life" escape?

If I had to guess, I'd say budget cuts?

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[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Overall I liked the finale and season as a whole, but one big problem I had with it was how Earth centric everything was. We got to see Loki bounce around lots of different places in season 1, but everything in S2 was just a different time period on Earth. The TVA is responsible for all the timelines in the entire multiverse, so why is everyone in it a human? And why would a variant of an Asguardian god choose a McDonalds in Oklahoma for her "regular life" escape?

Sweet sweet product placement money.

[getbak]

Are you suggesting Disney would sell out the integrity of their story for a couple of extra dollars from a promotional tie-in?

That's a shocking accusation. Shocking.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Finished this yesterday. Immediate thought:

Anyway I don't really get why Sylvie is content with this resolution... Loki doesn't REALLY give people free will. It's the same situation as was there before, with him in place of HWR and the TVA now enforcing his tree-based vision of the multiverse instead. I guess it allows for more varied timelines maybe but that's really just a matter of degree.

Good show regardless.

But he does really give them free will. The branches are all caused by choices, and now that the branches are allowed to grow, the choices people make are real and their will is free. The TVA is not "enforcing" the tree-based multiverse, they are tending the branches to ensure they are allowed to grow as opposed to pruning which restricted people to one choice.

Now we don't see how the TVA is working or what they do to cultivate timelines, but they most definitely are allowing all choices to grow and liberating people from the Sacred Timeline.

It isn't just varied timelines, it is infinite timelines. As Timely said, the loom had a scaling problem, a problem that the tree does not.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Overall I liked the finale and season as a whole, but one big problem I had with it was how Earth centric everything was. We got to see Loki bounce around lots of different places in season 1, but everything in S2 was just a different time period on Earth. The TVA is responsible for all the timelines in the entire multiverse, so why is everyone in it a human? And why would a variant of an Asguardian god choose a McDonalds in Oklahoma for her "regular life" escape?

I've had a thought about this:

You're an all-powerful being who can move at will through space and time. You're setting up a very large bureaucratic agency to maintain your power. You've got the ability to forcibly recruit literally anyone in the universe you want, and once you recruit them, you can prevent them from aging, meaning you don't have to ever worry about workplace turnover. All of that sounds great. Except one thing: you need all these beings to be able to work together. To live in a common environment. To relate to one another and feel like they're part of the same team. Most importantly, to communicate with each other.

That means the easiest thing to do is recruit all your employees from one time and place. Why 20th century earth? Fairly developed brains without yet being at the point where they're overly reliant on technology. Relatively simple material needs that match your own. Kinda average physical abilities... enough to be useful as soldiers if you need them to be, not strong enough that they're going to be some unstoppable fighting force if they want to overthrow you. So it makes sense that all variants in the TVA are humans from earth from the last half of the 20th century.

But yeah, no reason for Sylvie to end up in a MacDonalds in the midwest.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by octothorp

I've had a thought about this:

You're an all-powerful being who can move at will through space and time. You're setting up a very large bureaucratic agency to maintain your power. You've got the ability to forcibly recruit literally anyone in the universe you want, and once you recruit them, you can prevent them from aging, meaning you don't have to ever worry about workplace turnover. All of that sounds great. Except one thing: you need all these beings to be able to work together. To live in a common environment. To relate to one another and feel like they're part of the same team. Most importantly, to communicate with each other.

That means the easiest thing to do is recruit all your employees from one time and place. Why 20th century earth? Fairly developed brains without yet being at the point where they're overly reliant on technology. Relatively simple material needs that match your own. Kinda average physical abilities... enough to be useful as soldiers if you need them to be, not strong enough that they're going to be some unstoppable fighting force if they want to overthrow you. So it makes sense that all variants in the TVA are humans from earth from the last half of the 20th century.

But yeah, no reason for Sylvie to end up in a MacDonalds in the midwest.

Oh come on now...

We've all ended up at a McDonald's in the mid-west at some point in our lives or another.

It is inevitable.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Now we don't see how the TVA is working or what they do to cultivate timelines, but they most definitely are allowing all choices to grow and liberating people from the Sacred Timeline.

We do get a quick look into what the TVA is doing, and they are tracking Kang variants.



Also Sylvie working at McDonald's in Oklahoma is incredibly pedestrian, which is the point. She grew up in apocalyptic timelines, always running and fighting to not die in said apocalypse or get pruned.

[bdubbs]

Finished Loki season 2 this past weekend and I must say I am so glad I did. What a great ending(?) to this Loki's arc. He's my new favorite Marvel character. Sorry, Tony.