[News] Mike Vernon inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame

[activeStick]

Rick Wamsley was interviewed on the FAN, and shared a story about how he had a bonus clause in his contract one season that would give him a nice chunk of change if he played 30 games. It was the last game of the season and a win would give the Flames the Presidents trophy and home ice for the duration of the playoffs. Vernon started and the Flames were up 3-1 after the 2nd and it was a unanimous call by Flames management and Vernon to give Wamsley the 3rd period so he'd get his bonus. Flames ended up winning 4-1.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Rick Wamsley was interviewed on the FAN, and shared a story about how he had a bonus clause in his contract one season that would give him a nice chunk of change if he played 30 games. It was the last game of the season and a win would give the Flames the Presidents trophy and home ice for the duration of the playoffs. Vernon started and the Flames were up 3-1 after the 2nd and it was a unanimous call by Flames management and Vernon to give Wamsley the 3rd period so he'd get his bonus. Flames ended up winning 4-1.

Must've been 90-91. Hockeydb lists him at 29 games but that's probably assigning games to the goalie who played the majority. His other years were either under 10 or 35+.

Amazing to think in his cup year Vernon played just 54 games. Backups back then had a bigger chunk I guess.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Must've been 90-91. Hockeydb lists him at 29 games but that's probably assigning games to the goalie who played the majority. His other years were either under 10 or 35+.

Amazing to think in his cup year Vernon played just 54 games. Backups back then had a bigger chunk I guess.

wondering if it was 88-89 (one of their 2 president trophy years)


there would be 3 minor memory issues with the story as told, but the basics check out


1. Would require Wamsley's bonus trigger to have been 35 not 30
2. The Flames won the game 4-2
3 Wamsley and vernon did split the game, but RW played 40 minutes


the Flames were neck and neck with the Habs that year for the league title

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Must've been 90-91. Hockeydb lists him at 29 games but that's probably assigning games to the goalie who played the majority. His other years were either under 10 or 35+.

Amazing to think in his cup year Vernon played just 54 games. Backups back then had a bigger chunk I guess.

He played 52, but started only 47.

What's even more amazing though, is he only lost 6 games all season. 37-6-5.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by looooob

wondering if it was 88-89 (one of their 2 president trophy years)


there would be 3 minor memory issues with the story as told, but the basics check out


1. Would require Wamsley's bonus trigger to have been 35 not 30
2. The Flames won the game 4-2
3 Wamsley and vernon did split the game, but RW played 40 minutes


the Flames were neck and neck with the Habs that year for the league title

Yeah, the President's Trophy thing doesn't work for 90-91.

[Dentoman]

Mike Vernon on KIK 107 after the flight home from Montreal in 1989 might be peak Calgary radio

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Must've been 90-91. Hockeydb lists him at 29 games but that's probably assigning games to the goalie who played the majority. His other years were either under 10 or 35+.

Amazing to think in his cup year Vernon played just 54 games. Backups back then had a bigger chunk I guess.

Wamsley was really important to the Flames (helps justify trading Brett Hull in part for him). The previous season, Vernon played a lot more -- 64 games -- because the team couldn't really trust their backup Doug Dadswell. Dadswell had a 4.37 GAA and .858 save percentage on a team that eventually won the President's Trophy. That's some horrendous goaltending.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Wamsley was really important to the Flames (helps justify trading Brett Hull in part for him). The previous season, Vernon played a lot more -- 64 games -- because the team couldn't really trust their backup Doug Dadswell. Dadswell had a 4.37 GAA and .858 save percentage on a team that eventually won the President's Trophy. That's some horrendous goaltending.

The GAA is bad, but the save% isn't far off what was happening with goalies back then. Vernon was 3.53 and .877 that year.

It's kinda funny, Vernon's best stats were with San Jose and Florida. The latter sharing the net with Sean Burke and Trevor Kidd, of all people.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Wamsley was really important to the Flames (helps justify trading Brett Hull in part for him). The previous season, Vernon played a lot more -- 64 games -- because the team couldn't really trust their backup Doug Dadswell. Dadswell had a 4.37 GAA and .858 save percentage on a team that eventually won the President's Trophy. That's some horrendous goaltending.

Ah, good old ‘Dodge’ Dadswell. I still have PTSD.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Rick Wamsley was interviewed on the FAN, and shared a story about how he had a bonus clause in his contract one season that would give him a nice chunk of change if he played 30 games. It was the last game of the season and a win would give the Flames the Presidents trophy and home ice for the duration of the playoffs. Vernon started and the Flames were up 3-1 after the 2nd and it was a unanimous call by Flames management and Vernon to give Wamsley the 3rd period so he'd get his bonus. Flames ended up winning 4-1.

If that was the Oilers, they'd elect to save the money.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Saying he did nothing of note is unfair, he's 34th all time in career points and has over 500 career goals.

What did Jarome Iginla do in his career that was so much more impressive than Turgeon? A couple of Rocket Richards? Turgeon played in an era where he had to compete with guys like Lemieux, Gretzky, etc for individual awards.

If guys like Jarome Iginla, Adam Oates, Mike Modano, Brendan Shanahan, Mike Gartner, etc are HHOFs then so is Pierre Turgeon.

Iginla has 2x Rocket, Art Ross, Pearson, 5x international gold…

He’s absolutely on another level than Turgeon when it comes to Hall of Fame worthy accomplishments. Saying otherwise is just silly. Iginla was the best hockey player on the planet for a brief stretch.

[looooob]

^^ yeah I can 'live' with Turgeon in the Hall, but he's there as a guy with nice compiled numbers, from a high scoring era. he's in the Bernie Federko wing. yes he played at a time with great peers (all players do of course to some extent) but his top AS voting was 6th (twice) so essentially twice he was viewed as the 6th best C in the league- that's not an Iggy-esque resume


though they were only 8 years a part in age, their peaks occurred in starkly different eras. Adjusted for era Iggy is 7th goals, 17th points, with PT down in the 30s-40s and I think fair to argue that the latter essentially brought only scoring to the table


he's in, but there is a reason he didn't walk in on the first occasion like Iggy did