11-12-2023, 06:13 PM
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#801
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by camm13
He'd be better off racking up points on Toronto's PP with the likes of Nylander, Marner...Matthews... Taveres, then Flames dumpster fire of a PP
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They're not going to play him with those guys when they have Rielly.
But, yeah, no thanks to Klingberg.
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11-12-2023, 06:16 PM
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#802
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Franchise Player
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Klinberg is the cap dump to get the asset we actually want
Klinberg would also be fine as a bottom pair guy
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11-12-2023, 06:22 PM
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#803
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#1 Goaltender
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You probably have to take a cap dump just to make a deal work. Teams are so tight against the cap right now.
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11-12-2023, 06:24 PM
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#804
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
He also doesn't play the tough matchups
I guarantee the others have more value
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Didn’t mention value. Just saying none of our d men have been overly consistent or good defensively. But I can easily see a team paying more for Zadorov then Tanev at this point.
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11-12-2023, 06:25 PM
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#805
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I think we are at the point now where the Flames aren't signing anybody, they be all gone.
Jarnkrok was a bitter disappointment in his first stint here and that was a good hockey team he played on.
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Don’t bring jarnkrok back. He was useless. Might as well bring AHL guys up.
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11-12-2023, 06:25 PM
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#806
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
They're not going to play him with those guys when they have Rielly.
But, yeah, no thanks to Klingberg.
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They are though. He’s been on #1 PP.
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11-12-2023, 06:26 PM
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#807
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
You probably have to take a cap dump just to make a deal work. Teams are so tight against the cap right now.
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If the Flames take a cap dump I hope that is calculated into the trade.
Like to take on Klingberg is easily a 2nd round pick. Zadorov is probably worth a 2nd round pick and a 3rd.
Zadorov for Klingberg should have a 1st and two thirds attached by the leafs (since the Leafs do not have any 2nd round picks)
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11-12-2023, 06:31 PM
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#808
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
If the Flames take a cap dump I hope that is calculated into the trade.
Like to take on Klingberg is easily a 2nd round pick. Zadorov is probably worth a 2nd round pick and a 3rd.
Zadorov for Klingberg should have a 1st and two thirds attached by the leafs (since the Leafs do not have any 2nd round picks)
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Normally I would agree but I'm not sure teams are willing to pay much for dumping a player like Klinberg, who's on an expiring deal. Simply because it's also advantageous for the Flames to make any deal work.
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11-12-2023, 06:36 PM
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#809
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
They are though. He’s been on #1 PP.
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Must not have gone very well from playing PP with 4 of the top 20 scorers in the league to being healthy scratched.
Klingberg is Calen Addison with a $3.3M pay raise. Anyone would be lucky to get a C-prospect and a 5th.
If it's a cap dump to get Cowan or a 1st, sure.
Last edited by butterfly; 11-12-2023 at 06:40 PM.
Reason: Added in salary info
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11-12-2023, 06:46 PM
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#810
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
They're not going to play him with those guys when they have Rielly.
But, yeah, no thanks to Klingberg.
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Klingberg plays first unit PP, Riley plays 2nd.
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11-12-2023, 06:47 PM
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#811
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Must not have gone very well from playing PP with 4 of the top 20 scorers in the league to being healthy scratched.
Klingberg is Calen Addison with a $3.3M pay raise. Anyone would be lucky to get a C-prospect and a 5th.
If it's a cap dump to get Cowan or a 1st, sure.
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He is on a one year deal you aren't getting a 1st or top prospect for taking him for half a year.
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11-12-2023, 06:50 PM
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#812
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
He is on a one year deal you aren't getting a 1st or top prospect for taking him for half a year.
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This is the team that just traded a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for 24 games of Ryan O'Reilly.
At least try.
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11-12-2023, 06:52 PM
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#813
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I imagine he wants out of Toronto. So if it’s Toronto -> Calgary -> Elsewhere, that’s likely fine by him.
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What evidence is there of this? Wishful thinking?
He's already getting plenty of PP time in Toronto.
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11-12-2023, 07:04 PM
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#814
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cannon7
What evidence is there of this? Wishful thinking?
He's already getting plenty of PP time in Toronto.
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Just listening to Friedman on 32 Thoughts this past week. Sounds like Klingberg has been taking an absolute thrashing in the media.
Whether or not that impacts his desire to stay, who knows.
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11-12-2023, 07:07 PM
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#815
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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Zads is one of my favourite current flames
However, I dislike the route of going public with a trade request, particularly when it sounds like this all unfolded rather recently. I don't think it's too much to ask a player and his agent to give an organization time to make a move before trying to force their hand publicly. There's plenty of guys around the league on expiring contracts every year and you don't see them all crying about it via their agent. Now it's an unnecessary distraction and takes leverage away from management in a trade. So from a fan's perspective it sucks. I do hope for his sake he finds a longer term fit somewhere for his family.
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11-12-2023, 07:14 PM
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#816
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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If Zadorov is a number 5 guy, then don't expect a ransom for him. We saw last year at the deadline that the 5-7 guys went for 2nds and 3rds. A few teams might want him, but that doesn't mean they'll overpay for him.
More likely someone would overpay for Tanev.
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11-12-2023, 07:15 PM
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#817
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa
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Klingberg is washed. He is a negative asset at this point.
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11-12-2023, 07:19 PM
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#818
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
Zads is one of my favourite current flames
However, I dislike the route of going public with a trade request, particularly when it sounds like this all unfolded rather recently. I don't think it's too much to ask a player and his agent to give an organization time to make a move before trying to force their hand publicly. There's plenty of guys around the league on expiring contracts every year and you don't see them all crying about it via their agent. Now it's an unnecessary distraction and takes leverage away from management in a trade. So from a fan's perspective it sucks. I do hope for his sake he finds a longer term fit somewhere for his family.
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If he didn't have a big hit and a goal in that Toronto game, I doubt the trade request would have been made public. He had a big game in the biggest NHL media market, so his agent thought it was a good time to tell everyone that he is available. It was a dick move for sure to spring this up now and totally selfish. It shows a lack of respect to management, his team, and the fans.
Zadorov was one of my favourites as well, but he can get lost now.
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11-12-2023, 07:21 PM
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#819
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Must not have gone very well from playing PP with 4 of the top 20 scorers in the league to being healthy scratched.
Klingberg is Calen Addison with a $3.3M pay raise. Anyone would be lucky to get a C-prospect and a 5th.
If it's a cap dump to get Cowan or a 1st, sure.
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He wasn’t healthy scratched. He was nursing an injury he’d been playing through.
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11-12-2023, 07:21 PM
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#820
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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A Leafs podcast Hattrick Hq had the rumored return as
Out: Zadorov
In: Klingberg (cap dump), 2024 1st, 2024 5th
Think i'd do that deal. You only have to suffer through Klingberg for one year. Not sure where they heard it from but that's pretty good imo.
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