Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-12-2023, 06:13 PM   #801
butterfly
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by camm13 View Post
He'd be better off racking up points on Toronto's PP with the likes of Nylander, Marner...Matthews... Taveres, then Flames dumpster fire of a PP
They're not going to play him with those guys when they have Rielly.

But, yeah, no thanks to Klingberg.
butterfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:16 PM   #802
dino7c
Franchise Player
 
dino7c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Klinberg is the cap dump to get the asset we actually want

Klinberg would also be fine as a bottom pair guy
__________________
GFG
dino7c is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:22 PM   #803
Saqe
#1 Goaltender
 
Saqe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Exp:
Default

You probably have to take a cap dump just to make a deal work. Teams are so tight against the cap right now.
Saqe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:24 PM   #804
flamesgod
Powerplay Quarterback
 
flamesgod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c View Post
He also doesn't play the tough matchups

I guarantee the others have more value
Didn’t mention value. Just saying none of our d men have been overly consistent or good defensively. But I can easily see a team paying more for Zadorov then Tanev at this point.
flamesgod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:25 PM   #805
Goriders
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79 View Post
I think we are at the point now where the Flames aren't signing anybody, they be all gone.

Jarnkrok was a bitter disappointment in his first stint here and that was a good hockey team he played on.
Don’t bring jarnkrok back. He was useless. Might as well bring AHL guys up.
Goriders is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Goriders For This Useful Post:
Old 11-12-2023, 06:25 PM   #806
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly View Post
They're not going to play him with those guys when they have Rielly.

But, yeah, no thanks to Klingberg.
They are though. He’s been on #1 PP.
topfiverecords is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to topfiverecords For This Useful Post:
Old 11-12-2023, 06:26 PM   #807
Aarongavey
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe View Post
You probably have to take a cap dump just to make a deal work. Teams are so tight against the cap right now.
If the Flames take a cap dump I hope that is calculated into the trade.

Like to take on Klingberg is easily a 2nd round pick. Zadorov is probably worth a 2nd round pick and a 3rd.

Zadorov for Klingberg should have a 1st and two thirds attached by the leafs (since the Leafs do not have any 2nd round picks)
Aarongavey is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Aarongavey For This Useful Post:
Old 11-12-2023, 06:31 PM   #808
Saqe
#1 Goaltender
 
Saqe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey View Post
If the Flames take a cap dump I hope that is calculated into the trade.

Like to take on Klingberg is easily a 2nd round pick. Zadorov is probably worth a 2nd round pick and a 3rd.

Zadorov for Klingberg should have a 1st and two thirds attached by the leafs (since the Leafs do not have any 2nd round picks)

Normally I would agree but I'm not sure teams are willing to pay much for dumping a player like Klinberg, who's on an expiring deal. Simply because it's also advantageous for the Flames to make any deal work.
Saqe is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Saqe For This Useful Post:
Old 11-12-2023, 06:36 PM   #809
butterfly
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords View Post
They are though. He’s been on #1 PP.
Must not have gone very well from playing PP with 4 of the top 20 scorers in the league to being healthy scratched.

Klingberg is Calen Addison with a $3.3M pay raise. Anyone would be lucky to get a C-prospect and a 5th.

If it's a cap dump to get Cowan or a 1st, sure.

Last edited by butterfly; 11-12-2023 at 06:40 PM. Reason: Added in salary info
butterfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:46 PM   #810
camm13
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly View Post
They're not going to play him with those guys when they have Rielly.

But, yeah, no thanks to Klingberg.

Klingberg plays first unit PP, Riley plays 2nd.
camm13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:47 PM   #811
Spurs
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly View Post
Must not have gone very well from playing PP with 4 of the top 20 scorers in the league to being healthy scratched.

Klingberg is Calen Addison with a $3.3M pay raise. Anyone would be lucky to get a C-prospect and a 5th.

If it's a cap dump to get Cowan or a 1st, sure.
He is on a one year deal you aren't getting a 1st or top prospect for taking him for half a year.
Spurs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:50 PM   #812
butterfly
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs View Post
He is on a one year deal you aren't getting a 1st or top prospect for taking him for half a year.
This is the team that just traded a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for 24 games of Ryan O'Reilly.

At least try.
butterfly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 06:52 PM   #813
cannon7
Needs More Cowbell
 
cannon7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone View Post
I imagine he wants out of Toronto. So if it’s Toronto -> Calgary -> Elsewhere, that’s likely fine by him.
What evidence is there of this? Wishful thinking?

He's already getting plenty of PP time in Toronto.
cannon7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 07:04 PM   #814
ComixZone
Franchise Player
 
ComixZone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7 View Post
What evidence is there of this? Wishful thinking?

He's already getting plenty of PP time in Toronto.
Just listening to Friedman on 32 Thoughts this past week. Sounds like Klingberg has been taking an absolute thrashing in the media.

Whether or not that impacts his desire to stay, who knows.
ComixZone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 07:07 PM   #815
Hey Connor, It's Mess
First Line Centre
 
Hey Connor, It's Mess's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Zads is one of my favourite current flames

However, I dislike the route of going public with a trade request, particularly when it sounds like this all unfolded rather recently. I don't think it's too much to ask a player and his agent to give an organization time to make a move before trying to force their hand publicly. There's plenty of guys around the league on expiring contracts every year and you don't see them all crying about it via their agent. Now it's an unnecessary distraction and takes leverage away from management in a trade. So from a fan's perspective it sucks. I do hope for his sake he finds a longer term fit somewhere for his family.
Hey Connor, It's Mess is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hey Connor, It's Mess For This Useful Post:
Old 11-12-2023, 07:14 PM   #816
Ped
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
Exp:
Default

If Zadorov is a number 5 guy, then don't expect a ransom for him. We saw last year at the deadline that the 5-7 guys went for 2nds and 3rds. A few teams might want him, but that doesn't mean they'll overpay for him.


More likely someone would overpay for Tanev.
Ped is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ped For This Useful Post:
Old 11-12-2023, 07:15 PM   #817
liamenator
First Line Centre
 
liamenator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa
Exp:
Default

Klingberg is washed. He is a negative asset at this point.
liamenator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 07:19 PM   #818
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess View Post
Zads is one of my favourite current flames

However, I dislike the route of going public with a trade request, particularly when it sounds like this all unfolded rather recently. I don't think it's too much to ask a player and his agent to give an organization time to make a move before trying to force their hand publicly. There's plenty of guys around the league on expiring contracts every year and you don't see them all crying about it via their agent. Now it's an unnecessary distraction and takes leverage away from management in a trade. So from a fan's perspective it sucks. I do hope for his sake he finds a longer term fit somewhere for his family.
If he didn't have a big hit and a goal in that Toronto game, I doubt the trade request would have been made public. He had a big game in the biggest NHL media market, so his agent thought it was a good time to tell everyone that he is available. It was a dick move for sure to spring this up now and totally selfish. It shows a lack of respect to management, his team, and the fans.

Zadorov was one of my favourites as well, but he can get lost now.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to FlamesAddiction For This Useful Post:
Old 11-12-2023, 07:21 PM   #819
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly View Post
Must not have gone very well from playing PP with 4 of the top 20 scorers in the league to being healthy scratched.

Klingberg is Calen Addison with a $3.3M pay raise. Anyone would be lucky to get a C-prospect and a 5th.

If it's a cap dump to get Cowan or a 1st, sure.
He wasn’t healthy scratched. He was nursing an injury he’d been playing through.
topfiverecords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2023, 07:21 PM   #820
Psytic
First Line Centre
 
Psytic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

A Leafs podcast Hattrick Hq had the rumored return as


Out: Zadorov


In: Klingberg (cap dump), 2024 1st, 2024 5th


Think i'd do that deal. You only have to suffer through Klingberg for one year. Not sure where they heard it from but that's pretty good imo.
Psytic is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Psytic For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:50 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy