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Old 05-15-2007, 03:47 PM   #1
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Hepatitis A is caused by the Hepatitis A Virus and is highly contagious.
It is transmitted by:
  • fecal-oral contact

Poppie's a little sloppy

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Old 05-15-2007, 03:50 PM   #2
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someone like ATM
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:19 PM   #3
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Wow, one of my staff was scheduled to have her Reception there last weekend. Good thing she changed. Good for me too - I'm a guest!
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Yikes, my girlfriend and I definitely ate there during that period and I'm pretty sure I haven't been fully vaccinated against Hepatisis A at this point.
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Old 05-15-2007, 05:42 PM   #5
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:13 PM   #7
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ugh I ate there during that time frame. Not only did the food taste like crap, it may actually have contained feces.

This place has gone downhill ever since they sold out trying to make it Flames Central version beta. Bring back the Altitude Ale and Lake Louise Lager!!
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:21 PM   #8
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Its gone downhill since it was the Gasthaus.
Didn't some alleged spy get assasinated there?
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:32 PM   #9
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ugh I ate there during that time frame. Not only did the food taste like crap, it may actually have contained feces.
To be fair; the likelyhood of that is the exact same at any restaurant anywhere at any time.

From what I've heard on the news; if the employee was practicing proper hand washing, (and there's no reason to believe they weren't) then there is no risk of anybody getting sick. Instead they are just being as careful as they possibly can.

Now, if we can learn anything from this; its to get your vaccines before you travel.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:23 PM   #10
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I wouldn't be suprised if someone contacts bingo about deleting this thread at the threat of legal action from the restaurant.
They can't retract all the wonderful publicity they got on the news tonight. I am still surprised how well Peter's Drive in bounced back from the tainted marshmallow issue. I don't think the Wildwood has that much history and customer loyalty to not take a big hit from this.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:57 AM   #11
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This has to be murder for a restaurant. Now if anyone asks to go there in the next 5 years I am going to reply, no thanks, I can stick my finger up my own bum and make myself a sandwich. I wouldn't be suprised if someone contacts bingo about deleting this thread at the threat of legal action from the restaurant.
An actual murder at Madison's was not good for business. I think it closed recently.

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I just received an invite to a retirement dinner there next month.

I'd be willing to bet that this will be the cleanest restaurant in the city for the next little while.
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To be fair; the likelyhood of that is the exact same at any restaurant anywhere at any time.

From what I've heard on the news; if the employee was practicing proper hand washing, (and there's no reason to believe they weren't) then there is no risk of anybody getting sick. Instead they are just being as careful as they possibly can.

Now, if we can learn anything from this; its to get your vaccines before you travel.
Are you kidding? We have every reason to believe that this person wasn't practising proper hand washing! That's not a comment on the person in particular, who I know nothing about, but on the generally sloppy habits of people and the lax enforcement of hygiene rules in restaurants. You take a huge gamble with your health every time you eat at a restaurant...perhaps you'd expect it to be less of a gamble at an up-scale place than at McD's, but what people do or don't do in the bathroom is usually subject to no more enforcement than a sternly-worded sign: "Employees MUST wash hands before returning to work!"

We've all seen guys who do one or more of the following:
1) Give a cursory rinse without soap for 2 seconds, providing any bacteria a nice refreshing drink and a medium to travel to door handles, towel dispensers, etc. (eyechhh)
2) Walk straight from the urinal out the door (shake your hand? no thanks...just whip your dick out and I'll shake that instead!)
3) Walk straight from the stall out the door (er...barf)

If this kind of person can't see the reason to wash his hands in the normal course of daily life, why should we believe that a preachy sign, or unenforced rules in any form, will change his behaviour?

Oddly enough, I don't have a problem with eating at restaurants. I'm always aware that it's a gamble, but experience has shown that I win that gamble more often than not. Well...except for one unnamed fast food place at the UofC, which has hit me once too often.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:44 AM   #14
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Are you kidding? We have every reason to believe that this person wasn't practising proper hand washing! That's not a comment on the person in particular, who I know nothing about, but on the generally sloppy habits of people and the lax enforcement of hygiene rules in restaurants.
OK, I'm not sure what restaurants you've worked at, but every restaurant I've worked at; every employee was careful about sanitization; including hand washing. It wasn't really a management issue; it was more of all of us workers thought it was fating gross to do otherwise.

Those signs are there to make sure it isn't forgotten; sometimes you might get to chatting with a co-worker and lose your train of thought; especially on something as mindless as washing your hands. It's not like the signs are posted because it's a big problem; just a friendly reminder.
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I suppose I should clarify; I'm sure we've all seen gross stuff happen at restaurants.

I'm just saying that the gross stuff is the exception and not the norm; otherwise none of us would go to restaurants, right? And that with this case there is no reason to suspect that this person was doing gross stuff- more that they are taking the nessesary safety precautions.

I don't know for sure, but my guess is that once the employee told her boss that she was sick, management decided to alert the health board for advice; otherwise how would they have found out? The restaurant could have (as Klein once said) "Shot, shoveled and shut up", but decided to do what was the safest and the most expensive thing they could have done.
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I'm not sure the restaurant could have done that. The CHR probably found out about the case and was compelled to release it.
You're probably right, but it is a voluntary closure.
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I suppose I should clarify; I'm sure we've all seen gross stuff happen at restaurants.

I'm just saying that the gross stuff is the exception and not the norm; otherwise none of us would go to restaurants, right? And that with this case there is no reason to suspect that this person was doing gross stuff- more that they are taking the nessesary safety precautions.
In a small sample size, gross stuff may be the exception. Food preparers who work in an environment where there's a clean "culture" are undoubtedly more vigilant about things (that's along the lines of "corporate culture," not "ethnic culture"). In the course of a year, though, we likely all eat some food that's contaminated with snot, feces, saliva, hair, skin excretions, or non-human contaminants (e.g. plain old food poisoning). Most of it, as evidenced by our general good health, has minimal contamination though.

So I retract my comment on "every reason to believe," but I'll still say that your statement of having "no reason to believe" is incorrect. In the absence of evidence either way, we have every reason to assume the worst and take the appropriate precautions.

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I don't know for sure, but my guess is that once the employee told her boss that she was sick, management decided to alert the health board for advice; otherwise how would they have found out? The restaurant could have (as Klein once said) "Shot, shoveled and shut up", but decided to do what was the safest and the most expensive thing they could have done.
Point accepted...the restaurant's reaction might be an indication that they take the issue of hygiene very seriously. That's definitely better than attempting to cover things up, assuming it were possible.
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:33 AM   #18
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So I retract my comment on "every reason to believe," but I'll still say that your statement of having "no reason to believe" is incorrect.
Fair enough. However I am just repeating what a health expert said on Global news last night.

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Agreed 100%. And that is what they appear to be doing.
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:25 PM   #19
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I'm always aware that it's a gamble, but experience has shown that I win that gamble more often than not. Well...except for one unnamed fast food place at the UofC, which has hit me once too often.
Ugh...yeah, like we dont all know that little gem. No worries, its gotten me a few times too....

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Its gone downhill since it was the Gasthaus.

Oh my gosh, the Gasthaus, does that ever bring back memories.

Only ate there a couple of times, when I lived there, work related things, but it was alright at the time.

Many many years ago.

We used to love a little place down the street from there called 4th Street Rose, spent a lot of time in there.
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