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Old 11-11-2023, 01:36 PM   #601
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Philly is an odd fit given they are rebuilding
Rebuilding teams don’t want to be rebuilding forever. They’re aiming for a wild card spot.
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Old 11-11-2023, 01:38 PM   #602
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The agent is the perfect hype man. This will work in conroy's favor.
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Yup. Complaining just to complain. I feel like if they signed him to a contract then it would be they are idiots for signing him lol
No, I was pretty clear I think 5x5 for Zadorov is fair. And I think a GM will offer him roughly that as a UFA. 6'6" defencemen who can skate, hit, block shots and even contribute offensively don't grow on trees.
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I'd be extremely happy for Zadorov if he got 5x5, he deserves it. Heck, Gudbranson got 4x4. I just don't want Calgary to give him 5x5, I want them to sell high.
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Yes, but I also don't see it. Allvin has been pretty thrifty on depth pieces up to this point. A 2ns is on the table, which would also be the biggest thing he has spent on a piece like this.
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Old 11-11-2023, 01:44 PM   #606
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No, I was pretty clear I think 5x5 for Zadorov is fair. And I think a GM will offer him roughly that as a UFA. 6'6" defencemen who can skate, hit, block shots and even contribute offensively don't grow on trees.
The team that gives him that deal a. is not competing for anything and b. will regret it.

Defenseman who can't play more than limited sheltered minutes without getting overwhelmed do grow on trees. And Zadorov can have all the physical abilities in the world but if it only affective against bottom 6 players that is a problem in the NHL.
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Yes, but I also don't see it. Allvin has been pretty thrifty on depth pieces up to this point. A 2ns is on the table, which would also be the biggest thing he has spent on a piece like this.
With no cap dump, I could see Tanev for a second and a B prospect. I just think someone will pay a late first for him to include a cap dump that won’t affect our season one bit at the trade deadline.
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I definitely think a team is going to pay a king's ransom for one of them. I don't expect the Canucks to get either player. I want Dad back.
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Moving Zad quickly will probably make teams realize if they want an early TDL toy they better pony up quick!

Get em while there hot!
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Old 11-11-2023, 01:51 PM   #610
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Rebuilding teams don’t want to be rebuilding forever. They’re aiming for a wild card spot.
They just started
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Biz and Spittin Chiclets both running with the Commie tweet so spreading that rumor. I wonder if it has legs?
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The agent is the perfect hype man. This will work in conroy's favor.
Is there any legitimacy to Commodores tweet about Philly?
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Old 11-11-2023, 01:56 PM   #613
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It kinda sucks that this is public knowledge already. I think it’ll make it harder for Conroy to make a good move.
No, it doesn't. All it does is remove one team from the buying side of the equation - Calgary - and it seems like they've already made that decision. Teams know that he's available regardless of whether this came out. Zad is motivated to play well until he gets his next contract no matter what team he is on.
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I think some players and posters are going to be getting a reality check july 1

Zadorov, Toffoli, Lindholm, Hanifin won't be getting anywhere near the term and $$ they were demanding from the Flames
certainly not from "contending teams" with no cap space

ironically the Flames will be one of the only teams who have space...it can go to young players who actually want to be here or be used to acquire them

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Old 11-11-2023, 02:11 PM   #615
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I think some players and posters are going to be getting a reality check july 1

Zadorov, Toffoli, Lindholm, Hanifin won't be getting anywhere near the term and $$ they were demanding from the Flames

feel free to bump
No ####? Lindholm and Hanifin being hot garbage won't get them the big bucks?

Toffoli is on pace for 50 goals. Will take you up on that "reality check" on July 1st for that one.
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Moving Zad quickly will probably make teams realize if they want an early TDL toy they better pony up quick!

Get em while there hot!
But also important setting the market value when we still have a ton else to sell.
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No ####? Lindholm and Hanifin being hot garbage won't get them the big bucks?

Toffoli is on pace for 50 goals. Will take you up on that "reality check" on July 1st for that one.
Absolutely. No one is giving him major term and cash. Jersey can’t afford to either.
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I’m not disappointed in the play of DeSimone or Gilbert.

Sadly the Wrangler cupboards are a bit bare now.

Solo, Poirier.
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No ####? Lindholm and Hanifin being hot garbage won't get them the big bucks?

Toffoli is on pace for 50 goals. Will take you up on that "reality check" on July 1st for that one.
But Toffoli is not Zadorov so not sure the relevance. I am fine with all these guys getting big money as long as it is not in Calgary. Teams don’t win and become dominant teams with guys in their 30’s. They also do not become dominant teams signing bottom pair dman to long term contracts.
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No ####? Lindholm and Hanifin being hot garbage won't get them the big bucks?

Toffoli is on pace for 50 goals. Will take you up on that "reality check" on July 1st for that one.
he's not getting term

he will get a short deal around 5M IF his play continues
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