11-11-2023, 12:27 PM
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#541
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
So with no cap dump coming back what do we think Zadorovs value is?
Mid/Late first?
Two seconds?
Tofolli like with Sharangovich and a third?
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33 year old Ekholm got Nashville Schaefer (former 1st rnd), 2023 1st, 2024 4th, and Barrie.
So for Zadorov we should expect a 2nd and a cap dump.
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11-11-2023, 12:27 PM
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#542
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
If we just picked up Klingberg from Toronto for nothing the Leafs would have to add at least a 2nd to take that terrible contract off their hands. I would say they have to add more.
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I think Zadarov is worth a second, so I don't think it is far off. Klingberg doesn't have term
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11-11-2023, 12:29 PM
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#543
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Franchise Player
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Klinberg is UFA no?
he has a M-NTC though
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11-11-2023, 12:29 PM
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#544
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
33 year old Ekholm got Nashville Schaefer (former 1st rnd), 2023 1st, 2024 4th, and Barrie.
So for Zadorov we should expect a 2nd and a cap dump.
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Ekholm >>> Zadarov and had some term.
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11-11-2023, 12:29 PM
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#545
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
He's being sheltered by four guys who are underperforming.
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So you agree!
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11-11-2023, 12:29 PM
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#546
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Klinberg is UFA no?
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Yeah, who knows feed him a tonne of minutes and maybe get a 4th/5th back or something.
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11-11-2023, 12:30 PM
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#547
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Yeah, who knows feed him a tonne of minutes and maybe get a 4th/5th back or something.
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yeah I just mean its not big deal taking him...if you get the asset you want
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11-11-2023, 12:32 PM
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#548
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: St. Albert
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Originally Posted by Burner
Pretty crazy how quick a player who wanted to be here long term turned on the city
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Turned on the city? That's a bit much. He's got an idea of his value and worth and it doesn't seem to line up with what the Flames are willing to do. He's gotta look out for his best interests, just as the team does.
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11-11-2023, 12:33 PM
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#549
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
He signed it with an expansion team with a ton of cap room that had no expectations of being good any time soon.
Dude has 3 points and is a -1. He obviously wasn't a 3D on Dallas - they let him go for free.
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That expansion team with no expectations is ahead of us in the standings. Not to mention the Stars had cap trouble.
And he isn't an offensive defenceman, so not sure why you're concerned with points? He leads his team in blocked shots and hits. Why aren't you counting those? Zadorov regularly leads the Flames in this regard, too.
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11-11-2023, 12:34 PM
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#550
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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If you took on Reaves and Klingberg, I wonder what they'd be willing to give. Markstrom for the two + unprotected 1st?
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11-11-2023, 12:36 PM
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#551
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
He's being sheltered by four guys who are underperforming.
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and still being sheltered! You figured it out
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11-11-2023, 12:36 PM
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#552
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D as in David
So you agree!
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I am saying he's the #5 not because of merit or lack thereof, but because of past performances of the four guys ahead of him. Sadly, for the most part, those past performances haven't continued to present day.
Honestly if he ends up going to the Leafs, wouldn't be surprised to see him get top three minutes there.
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11-11-2023, 12:38 PM
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#553
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Honestly if he ends up going to the Leafs, wouldn't be surprised to see him get top three minutes there.
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Fans would run him out of town
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11-11-2023, 12:39 PM
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#554
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Markstrom + lindy (50%) for reaves+klingberg+cowan+knies+ unprotected 1st?
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11-11-2023, 12:40 PM
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#555
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
I am saying he's the #5 not because of merit or lack thereof, but because of past performances of the four guys ahead of him. Sadly, for the most part, those past performances haven't continued to present day.
Honestly if he ends up going to the Leafs, wouldn't be surprised to see him get top three minutes there.
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I guess Keefe may be a moron but assuming the Leafs are still trying to win there is zero chance Zadorov gets top 3 minutes.
I like Zadorov but he has shown he is no more than a bottom pairing player for a mediocre/bad Flames team where is this notion that he is going to be more than that for a better team coming from?
This year (and every other year) he hasn't played better than anyone ahead of him so how is he not 5th based on merit.
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11-11-2023, 12:41 PM
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#556
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
33 year old Ekholm got Nashville Schaefer (former 1st rnd), 2023 1st, 2024 4th, and Barrie.
So for Zadorov we should expect a 2nd and a cap dump.
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I consider Barrie a cap dump, especially with the term he still had, but that’s a good starting point as an example.
I can’t see how we don’t get a first if a cap dump is coming back.
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11-11-2023, 12:41 PM
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#557
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
I am saying he's the #5 not because of merit or lack thereof, but because of past performances of the four guys ahead of him. Sadly, for the most part, those past performances haven't continued to present day.
Honestly if he ends up going to the Leafs, wouldn't be surprised to see him get top three minutes there.
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I hope the other GM's in the league see him the way you do!
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11-11-2023, 12:44 PM
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#558
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2735741
Looks like the candidates have narrowed.
I'd just go for picks. Blow the team all the way up.
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11-11-2023, 12:47 PM
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#559
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Lifetime Suspension
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Devils would be great, wish we could somehow key Hotlz
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11-11-2023, 12:49 PM
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#560
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemnoble
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Gotta take cap back to get good picks. But if they're expiring contracts, who cares?
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