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Old 11-10-2023, 09:23 PM   #101
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I mean it's pretty obvious that locker room ain't right. With some not trying and big Z being willing to call people out in public, I'm thinking he's just sick of it
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:23 PM   #102
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Not unusual for teams to prioritize their more important players and then seeing what they have left over
Right, but that was the gist of my post. Their higher priorities have been to chase players that don't want to be here vs even a single contract discussion with a fan-favourite who does want to be here.

Admittedly, though, I'm probably just mostly upset about running out of likeable players to cheer for.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:23 PM   #103
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This team will be castrated if Z leaves.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:24 PM   #104
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18:27 per game is not bad ice time in my opinion
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:24 PM   #105
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Be honest. Would you want to play for this team if you had a chance to possibly play for 30 other teams?

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Old 11-10-2023, 09:25 PM   #106
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Wasn't there talk the reason he was had for a 3rd from Chicago, that he was looking for a 5x5 contract, and Treliving talked him down.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:25 PM   #107
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He made more great defensive plays tonight than the entire top 4 combined. I know that isn't the case every night, but more often than not he does a good job in his own zone. He gets beat sometimes and it looks bad, but we forget the other times that guys like Andersson, Tanev, Weegar, or Hanifin make sloppy turnovers resulting in a goal against.
His stats show he is a sheltered D-man and needs to be. Sorry for not being clear. I love the guy so much, but a top 4 defensive Zadorov is a $7-9mil player when you include size, hits, goals and intimidation. He's absolutely sheltered and not that great defensively and our actual top 4 ****ing the bed doesn't change that.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:25 PM   #108
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K, no locker room stuff has ever been mentioned in the speculation around Z.

Let's not making things up where there is no evidence of it being the case.
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Very strange, goes from I want to sign long term to get me out of here in less than 24 hours. Don't get it, don't like it.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:26 PM   #110
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Agents should be penalized for chatter like that.
Lol wut?
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:26 PM   #111
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He's a Ufa who was thought of being in the top 4 and has settled into the #5 role which is perfect for him.

He obviously wants to bring his stock up to sign a long term deal and we won't offer it and his value will decrease with low minutes.

It's probably mostly to do with positioning himself to get paid not the locker room being broken.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:26 PM   #112
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He's gone anyway, these comments tell the whole story. Whatever. Ship him to the highest bidder.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:27 PM   #113
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Just blow it up already. Who cares if it’s Edmonton or Vancouver wanting to overpay for our players, we won’t be turning this around in the next few years anyways.
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If your team is in the basement and a player with no term requests a trade you're not likely to be able to "sell high"... It's automatically a distressed asset. You're almost better off just waiting until the market becomes competitive later in the season as teams gear up for the playoffs.
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:28 PM   #115
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Literally tonight, the announcers were talking about McCabe going into something looking to stir some s***, but then immediately changing his mind when Zadorov asked if he wanted to go.

Who's gonna stick up for our Zarys and Pelletiers etc now? Zad is a rare breed in that he's big, skilled and can skate. 6"6' 230lbs mean-as-hell top-4 defencemen don't just fall from the sky.
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K, no locker room stuff has ever been mentioned in the speculation around Z.

Let's not making things up where there is no evidence of it being the case.
What? Wasn't there just an article last week about Zadorov calling out the team?

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"We're trying to figure out our identity. ... The main thing for us, we're just not working as a unit yet," the defenseman told reporters Tuesday, per TSN. "We have too many individuals playing by themselves. We've gotta figure out if we want to play as a team or if we want to play as our own guy."

"Last season was different. It was Darryl," Zadorov said. "Now there's no Darryl, so there's no excuses. You know what I mean? You guys don't like hard coaches? You don't like soft coaches? You don't like good coaches? Fair.

"It's a new-day league. You come up here, you play hard, and you leave everything on the ice. I think that's how simple it is."
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I love Zadorov, my favourite player on the team.

However, its one of those casualties of entering a rebuilding situation. This team needs to ship out players for prospects and picks. Let young guys who care a shot and just get rid of the mediocrity.
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Literally tonight, the announcers were talking about McCabe going into something looking to stir some s***, but then immediately changing his mind when Zadorov asked if he wanted to go.

Who's gonna stick up for our Zarys and Pelletiers etc now? Zad is a rare breed in that he's big, skilled and can't skate. 6"6' 230lbs mean-as-hell top-4 defencemen don't just falll from the sky.
We don't have anyone to stick up or give a crap enough. I did like Pop's grit and give a crap tonight though.

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Old 11-10-2023, 09:29 PM   #119
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Just blow it up already. Who cares if it’s Edmonton or Vancouver wanting to overpay for our players, we won’t be turning this around in the next few years anyways.
7 years to be exact
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Old 11-10-2023, 09:29 PM   #120
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K, no locker room stuff has ever been mentioned in the speculation around Z.

Let's not making things up where there is no evidence of it being the case.
Locker room issues are inevitable once one player makes a public request to go somewhere else. Divisions grow, discontent arises. Other players get ideas.
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