11-10-2023, 09:17 PM
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#81
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Triping over ourselves to try to re-sign players that said they wanted out... "not interested" in re-signing the ones that want to stay.
This org, man. This org.
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It's not that black and white. What kind of a contract does he want so he can stay?
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11-10-2023, 09:17 PM
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#82
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Sandman
Z only got 15 minutes ice time tonight. Only D getting less was DeSimone. Still, what are the coaches supposed to do? They are going to play Weegs, Andersson, Tanev, and Hanifin….
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Yeah, he's a sheltered D-man because he's pretty rough defensively. His size and intimidation is valued in the NHL, but his next contract is going to reflect too much size and not enough "how good is this defensemen at defence".
That's why you sell high before you overpay or lose him for nothing.
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11-10-2023, 09:17 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Triping over ourselves to try to re-sign players that said they wanted out... "not interested" in re-signing the ones that want to stay.
This org, man. This org.
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How much term and dollars does he want?
He’s a great story but also the type of guy you can’t over pay
How can you evaluate this without knowing what it would take to re-sign him?
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11-10-2023, 09:18 PM
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#84
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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I like Z. But if he doesn’t want to be here then he doesn’t want to be here. We should get a decent return if a team is desperate enough
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11-10-2023, 09:18 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I love the big Z. But I’m sure his contract ask is more than a player like him should get, and someone will give it to him next season.
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11-10-2023, 09:18 PM
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#86
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by AndyM
It's not that black and white. What kind of a contract does he want so he can stay?
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He said in the preseason that he never even got a phone call from the Flames, nevermind a contract offer.
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11-10-2023, 09:18 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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This feels like a sudden and unexpected betrayal.
Nikita, is your agent coercing you somehow? Blink once for yes.
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11-10-2023, 09:18 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Triping over ourselves to try to re-sign players that said they wanted out... "not interested" in re-signing the ones that want to stay.
This org, man. This org.
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While I get the desire to want to re-sign Zadorov because he seems to like the city and has a good attitude, but he just isn't a priority to deal with when the team has much more important players in a similar situation.
The team should be trading him and all other UFAs.
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11-10-2023, 09:18 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Very weird how this came up quickly. I am guessing there was perhaps a push for an extension and the Flames said no or Zadorov knows the team is pivoting to a rebuild/retool and doesn’t want to be a part of it? Maybe he doesn’t want to play third pair?
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11-10-2023, 09:18 PM
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#90
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Scoring Winger
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We're in a perfect position to rebuild... except for 2 long-term contracts worth $17M. But other than that, our rebuild is setting up perfectly.
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11-10-2023, 09:19 PM
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#91
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#1 Goaltender
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An agent spreading information like this on social media borders on collusion. Letting everyone know that a player has requested a trade lowers their trade value and allows the acquiring team to get them at a discount, which allows the player to be acquired by a team that is more competitive than it would have been if the information hadn’t been leaked.
And it’s also classless and unprofessional.
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11-10-2023, 09:19 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Sec was saying stuff was happening earlier tonight…
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I thought he was suggesting Swedish players. Looks like it’s Russian player also. Lol
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11-10-2023, 09:19 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
He said in the preseason that he never even got a phone call from the Flames, nevermind a contract offer.
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Not unusual for teams to prioritize their more important players and then seeing what they have left over
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11-10-2023, 09:19 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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I wonder if Zadorov is just unhappy with the inconsistent play of many of his teammates and wants to join an organization that gives a #### on a regular basis. Think back to his comments earlier in the season...
Watching Hanifin tonight, you have to wonder how invested some of these players are in winning. It's been getting better lately, but still nowhere near what it should be. Obviously, this is mostly about Calgary not reciprocating his desire to re-sign, but I think there's more to it than that. There's something still quite off in this team dynamic.
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11-10-2023, 09:19 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Very weird how this came up quickly. I am guessing there was perhaps a push for an extension and the Flames said no or Zadorov knows the team is pivoting to a rebuild/retool and doesn’t want to be a part of it? Maybe he doesn’t want to play third pair?
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5 minutes after a game concludes though (between a b2b)? Strange.
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11-10-2023, 09:21 PM
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#96
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Very weird how this came up quickly. I am guessing there was perhaps a push for an extension and the Flames said no or Zadorov knows the team is pivoting to a rebuild/retool and doesn’t want to be a part of it? Maybe he doesn’t want to play third pair?
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From the Agent's tweet, sounds like ice time is part of the issue.
Just speculating: guessing that after contract talks with Flames were not going well, they want to go somewhere he can better position himself for his next contract.
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11-10-2023, 09:21 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Yeah, he's a sheltered D-man because he's pretty rough defensively. His size and intimidation is valued in the NHL, but his next contract is going to reflect too much size and not enough "how good is this defensemen at defence".
That's why you sell high before you overpay or lose him for nothing.
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He made more great defensive plays tonight than the entire top 4 combined. I know that isn't the case every night, but more often than not he does a good job in his own zone. He gets beat sometimes and it looks bad, but we forget the other times that guys like Andersson, Tanev, Weegar, or Hanifin make sloppy turnovers resulting in a goal against.
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11-10-2023, 09:21 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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If we didn’t have the ridiculous Huberdeau contract (which is probably a league worst value wise) keeping Zadorov would have been way easier.
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11-10-2023, 09:22 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I wonder if Zadorov is just unhappy with the inconsistent play of many of his teammates and wants to join an organization that gives a #### on a regular basis. Think back to his comments earlier in the season...
Watching Hanifin tonight, you have to wonder how invested some of these players are in winning. It's been getting better lately, but still nowhere near what it should be. Obviously, this is mostly about Calgary not reciprocating his desire to re-sign, but I think there's more to it than that. There's something still quite off in this team dynamic.
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I believe this. He was speaking out a few games in a row and with him asking for an extension and the Flames refusing he’s saying “#### this, I’m out.”
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11-10-2023, 09:22 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
From the Agent's tweet, sounds like ice time is part of the issue.
Just speculating, guessing that after contract talks with Flames were not going well, they want to go somewhere he can better position himself for his next contract.
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Him along with about 300 other NHLers..
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