2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Some of this discussion is nuts. There's no way they acquire Markstrom without demanding we take back Campbell, who went for free on waivers. I don't like the Oilers, but there's other options out there in goaltending for them and better deals out there for us too.

It almost seems like you are implying the Oilers have some form of leverage which is hilarious. Oilers have limited assets and there is not a chance in hell they will solve their problems while also offloading Campbell and his 3+ years left on his contract. That is nuts.

[Ozy_Flame]

And in what world do the Oilers have to trade with the Flames, and have to get Markstrom without giving up a salary anchor let alone drop one of their expensive goalies, likely the one who costs more?

That's a Flames fan fantasy. Pure delirium.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

And in what world do the Oilers have to trade with the Flames, and have to get Markstrom without giving up a salary anchor let alone drop one of their expensive goalies, likely the one who costs more?

That's a Flames fan fantasy. Pure delirium.

They do not have to at all. They can find their goalie elsewhere there are 15-20 teams looking to trade their starter so should be no issue for Holland to take care of business.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

They do not have to at all. They can find their goalie elsewhere there are 15-20 teams looking to trade their starter so should be no issue for Holland to take care of business.

That's what's taking so long. They're trying to decide between Gibson, Binnington, Saros, Hart, Allen, Gustavsson, Merzlikins, Kuemper, Mrazek, Korpisalo, Grubauer, Vejmelka, Levi, or Varlamov.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Remembering when that ref fan made fun of Flames fans saying the Oilers are a goalie away.

Its not a goalie issue.

Darnell Nurse, Cody Ceci, Evan Bouchard thats a D core thats contending alright for the 1st overall pick.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Remembering when that ref fan made fun of Flames fans saying the Oilers are a goalie away.

Its not a goalie issue.

Darnell Nurse, Cody Ceci, Evan Bouchard thats a D core thats contending alright for the 1st overall pick.

Well, add the fact that their forwards don’t play defence either. Draisaitl was just standing around doing nothing when his guy scored from the slot.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, add the fact that their forwards don’t play defence either. Draisaitl was just standing around doing nothing when his guy scored from the slot.

Didn't get a selke vote?

He has never defended.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

And in what world do the Oilers have to trade with the Flames, and have to get Markstrom without giving up a salary anchor let alone drop one of their expensive goalies, likely the one who costs more?

That's a Flames fan fantasy. Pure delirium.

Because they believe Markstrom may solve their problem?

If they don’t believe in him then there is no such trade

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Because they believe Markstrom may solve their problem?

If they don’t believe in him then there is no such trade

There is no such trade. It won't happen, and the Flames will not get much even if it remotely did. Markstrom is not some desirable asset, he doesn't stand out among a sea of them.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

There is no such trade. It won't happen, and the Flames will not get much even if it remotely did. Markstrom is not some desirable asset, he doesn't stand out among a sea of them.

They won't get a better goalie than Markstom

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They won't get a better goalie than Markstom

The goalie with the 8th highest cap hit in the league and subpar stats so far this season?

And without getting rid of Jack Campbell or Stuart Skinner to do it?

E=NG, but Holland isn't Peter Chiarelli.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

The goalie with the 8th highest cap hit in the league and subpar stats so far this season?

And without getting rid of Jack Campbell or Stuart Skinner to do it?

E=NG, but Holland isn't Peter Chiarelli.

Okay so who are they getting?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Okay so who are they getting?

Probably a more cost effective goaltender as an attempt to stop the bleeding, and with a team that will take Jack Campbell's contract. That ain't us, unless we want that guy until 2027.

Do you want a $5 million backup/tweener? Neither do I and I bet Conroy doesn't either.

[Harry Lime]

Campbell is dead weight unless he gets his MOJO back in the ahl. No one is trading for that without the equivalent of a couple of 1st attached.

[Wastedyouth]

Lol WHAT are you guys even talking about right now.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Probably a more cost effective goaltender as an attempt to stop the bleeding, and with a team that will take Jack Campbell's contract. That ain't us, unless we want that guy until 2027.

Do you want a $5 million backup/tweener? Neither do I and I bet Conroy doesn't either.

Seems unlikely

I am looking for examples...I'm not sure if you grasp how bad of a spot they are in. Nobody is taking Cambell, if they want a half decent goalie they are trading one of their few half decent players.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Lol WHAT are you guys even talking about right now.

Oilers suck and there is no way out of it

[GhostCookie]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Seems unlikely

I am looking for examples...I'm not sure if you grasp how bad of a spot they are in. Nobody is taking Cambell, if they want a half decent goalie they are trading one of their few half decent players.

Campbell being so bad that he's relegated to the AHL (only because he can't be sent to the ECHL) has really crippled their trade position. Any team willing to move an underperforming goalie is not going to want Campbell back, because no one wants to burn nearly 4 million in the A for nothing, unlike a player that can maybe be relegated down to the bottom 6 and be a "role player", Campbell is literally being paid to stay away. Teams that have the cap space to absorb it, typically use cap space for high AAV/low actual dollar contracts, as it doesn't cost them much money, but Campell is still owed 12 million on the contract. No one wants 6 years of his dead contract either to buy out, plus the cost.

On top of all that, the oilers will need to empty the cupboards if they can find a trade partner, as the rest of their roster is useless. No one is excited about getting any of their D or bottom 6 as sweetener in a deal, and any roster player they deal that gives cap relief, is underperforming and requires further sweetener. And that's not even getting into the fact that most goalies people try and link to the greasers for a trade have some form of trade protection, and I can guarantee no goalie is looking at what's going on there defensively and thinking they have any chance of success there. Whoever is behind that D, on a lousy contract, will be playing their last days out in that ugly orange rag, because their stats will never recover from that stink.

[Sec214]

Conroy is being a mad lad and I love it. Working on details

[dammage79]

Oh, Connys working some angles. Fatal 3 way I imagine.


I'm guessing CGY won't be little Stockholm much longer