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Old 11-08-2023, 01:05 PM   #9921
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Is there a scenario where both the team and player could get together and mutually terminate the contract? Obviously there'd be a risk to Huby not getting as big of a contract elsewhere - but I imagine he'd be happier taking a shot somewhere else at this point?
Probably not. He would be crazy to risk that kind of money.

I could see his agent asking permission to try and see if there is a possible trade out there. I doubt there is, but it couldn't hurt to try.
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:07 PM   #9922
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I hate to say it, but I gotta agree with you
I was very optimistic when we got him, always liked the player
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there's been nothing but trouble and drama since we acquired him and it appears to be getting worse.
Yeah I'm not stoked on it either just stating the unfortunate facts it seems. I hoped he would step in and be great.
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Fire drills out there requiring minions?

Tristan Jarry badly hurt and backup is already on IR. Some dude named Magnus is the starting goalie

Carolina needs goaltending badly. Raanta is healthy but that never lasts. Halak? Relic.

Boston blueline is banged up. But what room to they have.

And Capitals just put Backstrom on LTIR and have like $10mm of space now and need someone to set up Ovi.
Huberdeau for Phillips!
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:11 PM   #9924
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I would really appreciate that Gallagher and Anderson for Huberdeau idea panning out. Dare to dream boys, dare to dream.
Those two are the type of players that the majority of the fan base would love and a very vocal minority on this board would hate.

I'm all for it.
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:11 PM   #9925
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Is there a scenario where both the team and player could get together and mutually terminate the contract? Obviously there'd be a risk to Huby not getting as big of a contract elsewhere - but I imagine he'd be happier taking a shot somewhere else at this point?
That would leave the flames with nothing for Huberdeau, as you cant trade a terminated contract. Total waste of an assett.
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:11 PM   #9926
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My guess if we trade with MTL there would be a couple bad contracts coming the other way to offset the cap it.

Something like.

Huderdeau 2.2M retained for Josh Anderson, Joel Armia and the Flames 2025 first
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:12 PM   #9927
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Huberdeau requesting a trade is all well and good if thats the road he wants to go down, but I'd ask Walsh just how the Flames are supposed to accomplish this given the deal he (Walsh) worked out on his client's behalf? The signing bonus structure pretty much kills it.
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There was a meeting held today after practice/team meetings this morning. It's believed to between Management, Jonathan and his agent Allan Walsh.

The player agent requested the meeting.

I don't believe a trade request was put in directly but I wonder if a straws are starting to be drawn.
I hope it was more of a Principal - Student Parent meeting. Huberdeau apologizing his behavior.

The team has nothing to do with Huberdeau's performance at this point. When Zary can walk out of the AHL and perform better in every way, kind of ridiculous.

So instead of using the benching as lighting a fire under your ass, you call your agent to set a meeting with the boss.

Agent can go find a trade with no assets or money retained.

Other than that, agree to cancel the contract.
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:12 PM   #9929
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That would leave the flames with nothing for Huberdeau, as you cant trade a terminated contract. Total waste of an assett.
Huberdeau's contract is a liability, not an asset.
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That would leave the flames with nothing for Huberdeau, as you cant trade a terminated contract. Total waste of an assett.
$10.5M of cap space is a helluva an asset these days.
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Huberdeau's contract is a liability, not an asset.
another unfortunate truth at this point
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$10.5M of cap space is a helluva an asset these days.
There is no chance the Flames wouldn't have to retain and take a bad contract in return.

The cap would wind up being a wash, and the Flames would take picks to off set the asset exchange.
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Maybe the meeting is the discussion around the lifting of any NMC clauses, if there are any. That would be a logical discussion item to get out of the way first.
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$10.5M of cap space is a helluva an asset these days.
especially this year, that type of cap space this year would allow you to broker some deadline deals for other teams and perhaps collect a few picks/prospects
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:17 PM   #9935
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I think the trade with Edmonton is a Dman. Not enough to tip the scales, however still requiring their 1st, even if top 5 protected. They likely could offer the highest overall first rounder imo. More than a Toronto, Boston or other contender. Strike while the iron is hot.

I also don’t see why Columbus wouldn’t entertain a Jonny swap. They aren’t getting out from that contract either, granted shorter and slightly cheaper. A small 1mil retention by the flames and I think it could work out for both teams.

Having the agent look for a deal, likely shows less bias and believe ability that Hubby is just underperforming because of the system/situation. Calgary would have a harder time selling that imo. I think this is a good news item to rectify this ####ty situation.
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:17 PM   #9936
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Trade him to Washington.

Huberdeau for Mantha and Wilson. Cap evens out and Mantha is dead weight for them.


Gets Ovi a passer to get the record which is all they are trying to do these next couple seasons.
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:22 PM   #9937
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There was a meeting held today after practice/team meetings this morning. It's believed to between Management, Jonathan and his agent Allan Walsh.

The player agent requested the meeting.

I don't believe a trade request was put in directly but I wonder if a straws are starting to be drawn.
Walsh's client list isn't too big, mostly older cheaper vets and rookies then the elephant of Huberdeau's contract. https://puckpedia.com/agent/allan-walsh

He does seem to be pretty outspoken and active as an agent however, in calling the principal when his kids aren't happy at school. I wonder if Huberdeau and him had a long call last night about his future.

Conroy has to deal with Huby, potentially looking for trade partners for Lindholm and Hanafin, and trying to keep the team competitive as well. Tre did him no favors.
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$10.5M of cap space is a helluva an asset these days.
So the trade for Tkachuck is for cap space, great trade
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Trade him to Washington.

Huberdeau for Mantha and Wilson. Cap evens out and Mantha is dead weight for them.


Gets Ovi a passer to get the record which is all they are trying to do these next couple seasons.
Tom Wilson until age 37? I think I'd rather keep Huberdeau.
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Old 11-08-2023, 01:24 PM   #9940
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Trade him to Washington.

Huberdeau for Mantha and Wilson. Cap evens out and Mantha is dead weight for them.


Gets Ovi a passer to get the record which is all they are trying to do these next couple seasons.
I like this trade. Give Ovi someone to get him to the Gretzky record is a motivator even if the Caps are not going to be competitive.

Phillips back too

Tom Wilson contract until age 37 is not good though but both teams get handcuffed with long contracts.

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