2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[dammage79]

One of Podkolz8n or Raty will do thanks. Don't need no Garland.

[dammage79]

As for the Leafs, fork over Topi Niamala and or Knies. K bye.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Well we will need the cap space and can't be wasting it on a guy who has chemistry issues while our own team can't sort out its own issues on how to evolve as a offensive hockey team.

Adding another player to our group of contracts is probably not a good idea.

Just give us the first and we an retain on Tanev.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Literally no shot. Canucks are looking to move Garland for cap flexibility, this move doesn't deliver that. The Canucks are not interested in moving any futures or sweeteners to get the Garland contract moved and I think a 1st attached to get Tanev would fall in that category. I could see Garland and a 2nd or 3rd for Tanev as a hockey deal. But even that's a stretch in my mind. Right now, I think the Canucks would offer Garland for Tanev, 1for1, and when that's a no-go, moving on.

I type all this as someone who is still quite high on Dube (despite some people here being otherwise)


Wat? You're expecting more than an bonafide middle six 50 point NHLer and a midround 1st for a mid 30s dman?


Hronek got barely more than that.

How does this move not create cap flexibility? You dump multiple years of Garland for 2 free agents. Dube can be qualified or can let walk but he is a younger, cheaper likely better Garland. The Canucks have been trying to move Garland for multiple years. Your value is way off as no one is taking that cap hit without a sweetener or sending a contract with term back. A team will pay a 2nd for Tanev without the Flames needed to take on an overpaid contract for another 2 years after this one.

[Blaster86]

Any deal the Canucks make includes Garland leaving right now. It's not a "well we'd really like to move him" thing. Canucks don't have cap space to do anything like a deal for Tanev without money moving out.

Originally Posted by Vinny01

How does this move not create cap flexibility? You dump multiple years of Garland for 2 free agents. Dube can be qualified or can let walk but he is a younger, cheaper likely better Garland. The Canucks have been trying to move Garland for multiple years. Your value is way off as no one is taking that cap hit without a sweetener or sending a contract with term back. A team will pay a 2nd for Tanev without the Flames needed to take on an overpaid contract for another 2 years after this one.

They aren't looking for cap flexibility for next season. They're looking for this year. Cap flexibility happens naturally next year with Myers' deal expiring and the cap rising.

They've been trying to move one of Garland, Boeser or Myers (And technically OEL) since December of last year. They have been steadfast since day one: no sweetners, little to no retention. It's not that my valuation is off, it's what the team has said in regards to any move like this. They've shown that this isn't really negotiable as they have not budged on this. Since this search for a willing trade partner has started, Boeser has come around and rescinded his trade request while playing better and Myers can't get moved as there is no longer anyone to replace him in the organization at present so Garland remains the only one of the three on the block.

A team will pay a 2nd for Tanev and I have no doubt about that, which brings me to my first point: There is probably no deal to be made between these two teams at this time.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Literally no shot. Canucks are looking to move Garland for cap flexibility, this move doesn't deliver that. The Canucks are not interested in moving any futures or sweeteners to get the Garland contract moved and I think a 1st attached to get Tanev would fall in that category. I could see Garland and a 2nd or 3rd for Tanev as a hockey deal. But even that's a stretch in my mind. Right now, I think the Canucks would offer Garland for Tanev, 1for1, and when that's a no-go, moving on.

I type all this as someone who is still quite high on Dube (despite some people here being otherwise)

Yeah you aren't getting a return for Garland.

3 points in 11 games, owed $10M over the next two seasons.

That dude is a cap dump.

Tanev, likely at minimum is going to return a 2nd + 3rd or 4th.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah you aren't getting a return for Garland.

3 points in 11 games, owed $10M over the next two seasons.

That dude is a cap dump.

Tanev, likely at minimum is going to return a 2nd + 3rd or 4th.

Then they don't move him. They've shown they will not attach a sweetner or retrain a large chunk of salary. As I have said, there is no gun to the Canucks' head in regards to making a deal. The team is doing well and they are cap compliant. They would like to move Garland for their own internal cap flexibility while giving the player a chance to succeed elsewhere.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Fine, we'll pony up Tanev.

Huberdeau retained and Tanev for Garland.

[Vinny01]

Hronek and Pettersson will both get raises that more than swallow up the cap savings from Myers expiring if they keep this pace up. Garland goes nowhere unless a dud contract is sent back or the Canucks attach a sweetener.

We will see where they are at the deadline but if they still look like the contender they do right now then I think they will make some all-in moves. Getting assets they could use while dumping Garland for a 1st makes sense to me if they are in fact this good. Rutherford loves to deal those picks.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1721607879596327142

Man I hate the click bait nature of name a Canadian team with players to move, and then name three other Canadian teams as possibly interested.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hronek and Pettersson will both get raises that more than swallow up the cap savings from Myers expiring if they keep this pace up. Garland goes nowhere unless a dud contract is sent back or the Canucks attach a sweetener.

Cross that bridge when you get to it, but that's a real 1st world problem.

Originally Posted by Vinny01

We will see where they are at the deadline but if they still look like the contender they do right now then I think they will make some all-in moves. Getting assets they could use while dumping Garland for a 1st makes sense to me if they are in fact this good. Rutherford loves to deal those picks.

Making all in moves for this season would be the definition of premature. Any moves they make this year have the eye towards next year and the year after.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Cross that bridge when you get to it, but that's a real 1st world problem.





Making all in moves for this season would be the definition of premature. Any moves they make this year have the eye towards next year and the year after.

I don’t think at this very moment it makes sense for the Canucks to do a big move like this but if they are still 3rd overall in the league and looking at sending a pick 25th or later then I think this is a very reasonable deal that helps them in many ways. Getting Tanev back would be a PR win as well as a win on the ice. Beloved player returns and he helps anchor the second or third pair as he has in Calgary over the past 3 years. Dube has shown a lot of flashes here and would be an upgrade on Garland in my opinion. He comes as a RFA so can be retained for a year, longer term, or his rights flipped for a mid round pick. $5M in cap space is saved if both players are cut loose which helps them add pieces around their core.

No rush for either side but this deal is the type I think could make a lot of sense if at the deadline both teams are in the same spot in the standings as they are now

[Blaster86]

If the Canucks are in a situation where Garland is off the books and they are just making a hockey deal, than maybe. I'd be against paying a 1st for Tanev even in 3rd place.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Man I hate the click bait nature of name a Canadian team with players to move, and then name three other Canadian teams as possibly interested.

Man, he took it further on 32 Thoughts. Talked about Conroy "bailing out" Edmonton and Toronto (for a premium)

[Jiri Hrdina]

Tanev is very much what the Oilers need.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Tanev is very much what the Oilers need.

He's very much what a lot of teams needs. Someone will pay out the nose for him if he goes to market.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Tanev is very much what the Oilers need.

Exactly why we should trade him to Toronto for a good package.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Man, he took it further on 32 Thoughts. Talked about Conroy "bailing out" Edmonton and Toronto (for a premium)

Calgary shouldn't trade with Toronto ever but Conroy has lived the battle of Alberta so he must know it has to be a super lopsided trade if he sends a dman to Edmonton. Unprotected first + whoever their best prospect is for Tanev lol

[dammage79]

I'd take Lavoie for Tanev. That'd be just dandy.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd take Lavoie for Tanev. That'd be just dandy.

I want a better return than that.