2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

You are dragging his family into this.

Basically saying his wife ruined his life and his family hates her? Confirmed by TMZ Frank? The same guy who had Love as cosch and Lindholm signed?

People can believe what they like I don't care. I trust my information and it matches with what his camp said the shots Treliving took. His dad didn't look very devestated either. I've known a lot about Johnny through people here in Calgary and I can say with 100% confidence that his wife was probably the best thing to happen him and his career.

You can get pissy all you want, I am 100% certain what I said there is accurate. I never ever said his wife and her family ruined his life, I said he chose to embrace their wishes instead of his own and if that makes him happy, great. Also, you are laying a lot of bs here to try and back up your story, at no time did FS say Lindholm has actually signed a contract or that he knew Love was going to be named head coach. He is an insider that hears rumours and reported that he thought Lindholm was close and if he had to GUESS it would be Love who got the job. You can not like what the messenger reports because sometimes the news sucks but it is what it is. Murray Edwards wants to win and he is a businessman, do you really think if Gaudreau circled back he would acted like a jilted lover and say no despite a player that clearly helps his team win and is a cash cow for the franchise? Come on man.

[The Original FFIV]

Let’s pump the brakes on the gaudreau back to Calgary talk. Not gonna happen.

The following teams have showed some interest in Conor Garland.

Winnipeg
Washington
Nyi
Nashville
Columbus
Buffalo

Wonder if we can interest them in Dube/mangiapane?

With the aim to get bigger and tougher to play against.

All these teams off to so-so starts, so might be open to dealing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You can get pissy all you want, I am 100% certain what I said there is accurate. I never ever said his wife and her family ruined his life, I said he chose to embrace their wishes instead of his own and if that makes him happy, great. Also, you are laying a lot of bs here to try and back up your story, at no time did FS say Lindholm has actually signed a contract or that he knew Love was going to be named head coach. He is an insider that hears rumours and reported that he thought Lindholm was close and if he had to GUESS it would be Love who got the job. You can not like what the messenger reports because sometimes the news sucks but it is what it is. Murray Edwards wants to win and he is a businessman, do you really think if Gaudreau circled back he would acted like a jilted lover and say no despite a player that clearly helps his team win and is a cash cow for the franchise? Come on man.

Dude no one is pissy here that's Leon.

You can believe your info I'll believe mine it really doesn't matter he's gone so it doesn't matter much now anyways.

You have some good information to share and we agree on stuff but I just have one ask of you going forward.

Please type in paragraphs!!!!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Let’s pump the brakes on the gaudreau back to Calgary talk. Not gonna happen.

The following teams have showed some interest in Conor Garland.

Winnipeg
Washington
Nyi
Nashville
Columbus
Buffalo

Wonder if we can interest them in Dube/mangiapane?

With the aim to get bigger and tougher to play against.

All these teams off to so-so starts, so might be open to dealing.

If Garland was a negative asset a deal I cooked up was:

To CGY: Galrand + 1st (lottery protected)
To Van: Tanev+Dube

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Garland was a negative asset a deal I cooked up was:

To CGY: Galrand + 1st (lottery protected)
To Van: Tanev+Dube

May have to do 50% retained on Tanev to make that work, but even with that I'm 100% in.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

May have to do 50% retained on Tanev to make that work, but even with that I'm 100% in.

I think the Flames need to utilize all 3 of their salary retention slots for the year on rentals. If Tanev can be a piece to extract a 1st then he should be one and I believe the other slots likely make sense for Lindholm and Hanifin deals to maximize the returns.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Dude no one is pissy here that's Leon.

You can believe your info I'll believe mine it really doesn't matter he's gone so it doesn't matter much now anyways.

You have some good information to share and we agree on stuff but I just have one ask of you going forward.

Please type in paragraphs!!!!

Sounds good except for the paragraphs. I am allergic.

[CFO]

I think tanev at times has looked like hot garbage on the break out this year.

Flames should look to move on from him at the deadline.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CFO

I think tanev at times has looked like hot garbage on the break out this year.

Flames should look to move on from him at the deadline.

He's struggled, and I agree he's excellent deadline trade material. But garbage? That's over the top. He's still an excellent defensive defenceman, better than 90% of the D in the league in that department. And I bet he gets better over the season. Gio had some rough starts to seasons as well.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hard to call Tanev hot garbage.

Its evident the abuse his body has taken has finally caught up to him. He still gives it 100% but not much you can do once your body isn't cooperating like it used too.

[Poe969]

It's funny people think the Flames will trade away players and retain salary. They're still contenders because "anything can happen" which means they'd be more likely to be buyers than sellers as long as it's mathematically possible to make the playoffs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Poe969

It's funny people think the Flames will trade away players and retain salary. They're still contenders because "anything can happen" which means they'd be more likely to be buyers than sellers as long as it's mathematically possible to make the playoffs.

[Blaster86]

One of the things about Garland is the Canucks have zero interest in trading him with any sweetners. Garland won't move out with a 1st. Garland won't move out with any retained salary. The Canucks start means they have no reason to. They are winning games, they are cap compliant. They may look at a Garland for Tanev 1 for 1 since it adds to something the team needs.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Do you disagree? You think this is the year they sell at the deadline or before? I'm willing to bet they make moves to "go for it" instead of "rebuild" type deals. They've been in better spots to rebuild and have passed them up in favour of trying to get better instantly.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Do you disagree? You think this is the year they sell at the deadline or before? I'm willing to bet they make moves to "go for it" instead of "rebuild" type deals. They've been in better spots to rebuild and have passed them up in favour of trying to get better instantly.

Different GM & one of the worst starts ever but your concern is warranted.
The first trade or signing will be telling, it's hard to say which way Conroy goes right now.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

One of the things about Garland is the Canucks have zero interest in trading him with any sweetners. Garland won't move out with a 1st. Garland won't move out with any retained salary. The Canucks start means they have no reason to. They are winning games, they are cap compliant. They may look at a Garland for Tanev 1 for 1 since it adds to something the team needs.

Flames don’t touch that as why do they take a long term questionable contract for an expiring? Doesn’t do a single thing for them but helping out a rival by taking a $5M per deal for a third line winger for a second pair D.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

One of the things about Garland is the Canucks have zero interest in trading him with any sweetners. Garland won't move out with a 1st. Garland won't move out with any retained salary. The Canucks start means they have no reason to. They are winning games, they are cap compliant. They may look at a Garland for Tanev 1 for 1 since it adds to something the team needs.

Even with garland at neutral (zero value) they have to pay something for Taney, or we would just trade him elsewhere.... Tanev for Garland straight up will never be on the table. Canucks can pitch in a 2nd rounder or shop elsewhere

[Blaster86]

I mean, that's fine. The Flames don't have to do it. I wouldn't expect them to. But that's what they're looking for in a Garland trade now.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Do you disagree? You think this is the year they sell at the deadline or before? I'm willing to bet they make moves to "go for it" instead of "rebuild" type deals. They've been in better spots to rebuild and have passed them up in favour of trying to get better instantly.

I do...they will sell unless they are in a spot. They certainly won't be buying

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That doesn't check out with anything I have heard at all. Johnny Gaudreau had every intention of signing with Calgary, he even ok'ed his agent on the final day of free agency to sign a contract. Then his wife put her foot down and that was that, he never tried to circle back to the Flames, that was never an option. He didn't choose Columbus either, another choice made by his wife. I am not degrading him here I am just telling you what happened, he had a choice between is hockey dreams and his new wife and soon to be family and he chose the latter. I think this is a guy who internally is torn, he loves his wife and being a dad yet he threw away everything he dreamed of accomplishing his whole life, he basically threw away becoming a hockey legend in a great hockey market to appease his wife and her family and so he has totally embraced that and has put hockey on the backburner. He didn't train pretty much at all this past offseason, he was too busy playing family guy and so he looks like #### out there, always gassed midway through shifts, not putting in anything but a go through the motions effort on the ice. He doesn't care about winning or the game now because I imagine that would eat him up inside because he isn't where he wanted to be. I do know Guy Gaudreau thinks he made a big mistake and I get the impression he is not a big fan of his daughter in law or her family.

I blame the fathers of Calgary based Johnny aged women. You clowns had one job, hook your daughter up with Johnny and lock him down in Calgary for good.

Boneheads.