[Rumour] Friedman: Flames and Hanifin have made progress on contract extension

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Lindholm to CBJ for Sillinger+1st+player to offset caps just makes too much sense.
CBJ needs to get Johnny going, and Lindholm and him have established chemistry.

Do it.

Flames could even eat some of the cap if they threw in another asset. Blue Jackets management have to be under some heat after the Babcock fiasco. Your player could turn into another young asset if the Flames ate 2 million to make the cap work for Columbus and give them room for other moves. Collect another Yegor by eating some cap.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Lindholm to CBJ for Sillinger+1st+player to offset caps just makes too much sense.
CBJ needs to get Johnny going, and Lindholm and him have established chemistry.

Do it.

Yup, that is my target return unless a GM does something dumb. it is a pretty reasonable price to pay from Columbus' end.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Lindholm to CBJ for Sillinger+1st+player to offset caps just makes too much sense.
CBJ needs to get Johnny going, and Lindholm and him have established chemistry.

Do it.

I'd take a year of Roslovic for cap purposes, even if he leaves afterwards. But he's actually from Columbus. If the Flames don't want to tank, take Boone Jenner. They have to make room at C for all of Lindholm, Johnson and Fantilli anyway.

[Vinny01]

I don’t think they can get Sillinger and a 1st. I would target Sillinger+Boquivst and a 2nd if they put that deal on the table.

Can we expect a 1st and a recent player drafted in the 1st for Lindholm? He needs to start heating up big time for that.

[Flames1217]

I think that if you are trading with Columbus you have to take a run at Marchenko.

Sillinger doesn't impress me any more than Zary does so you focus on the guy who provide something that is currently lacking in our lineup (snipers).

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don’t think they can get Sillinger and a 1st. I would target Sillinger+Boquivst and a 2nd if they put that deal on the table.

Can we expect a 1st and a recent player drafted in the 1st for Lindholm? He needs to start heating up big time for that.

Depends on how Columbus values Sillinger and where their pick is. I don't think Sillinger + a 1st is that far off from what Horvat returned especially if he struggle again this season.

Originally Posted by Flames1217

I think that if you are trading with Columbus you have to take a run at Marchenko.

Sillinger doesn't impress me any more than Zary does so you focus on the guy who provide something that is currently lacking in our lineup (snipers).

Sillinger is attainable because he is expendable from Columbus' perspective.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Depends on how Columbus values Sillinger and where their pick is. I don't think Sillinger + a 1st is that far off from what Horvat returned especially if he struggle again this season.





Sillinger is attainable because he is expendable from Columbus' perspective.

Sillinger was 11th overall and 1 pick before Coronato. I don’t think Vancouver got a similar prospect back for Horvat who was absolutely lighting it up prior to the trade. Columbus also isn’t t a strong enough team to give up a 1st.

I also think the Flames want to speed things up they would prefer a 21 year old rather than a 1st

[Ashes]

Lindholm to Columbus for Sillinger and a 1st makes sense for both teams if they can convince Lindholm to stay. Fantilli - Lindholm as your 1/2 Centers actually looks solid for them. Especially when you add in Gaudreau and Laine on the wings.

They've made a lot of picks over the last few years, they have young forwards and D coming through, this feels like the kind of move they should be looking at. Also as others have said, obvious reason to do it is his chemistry with Johnny.

[Vinny01]

I also think that Lindholm will sign anywhere that pays him so Columbus could look at it as a long term buy if they are willing to go 9x8

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

It’s the same system Tkachuk, Gaudreau and even Toffoli worked with. The system isn’t bad, it’s just some players aren’t built to play this kind of hockey. Fans always complain that their teams are easy to play against and that they’re not built for playoff hockey.

So management built a team that could play playoff style hockey and hired a no nonsense playoff style coach who everyone turned against. Now we want to go backwards and play a style that’s unsuitable for playoff hockey spearheaded by a guy whose points drop precipitously once the calendar flips over? Florida sure as heck didn’t miss that guy when they cruised to the Stanley Cup finals last season.

It also isn't systems when you see Huberdeau over and over again making no-look passes that get intercepted by opposing players 10 feet from where he passed it with no hope of making it through. Or failed spinorama attempts that lead to turnovers. Or dishing the puck away rather than battling for it.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Lindholm to CBJ for Sillinger+1st+player to offset caps just makes too much sense.
CBJ needs to get Johnny going, and Lindholm and him have established chemistry.

Do it.

The only forwards CBJ have earning more than 2.5m are Gaudreau, Laine, Jenner, and Roslovic. And Roslovic is a pending UFA. I can’t see them moving their newly-acquired D. So that leaves Peeke, at $2.75m, as third-pairing d to replace Tanev. And he’s still only 25.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'd take a year of Roslovic for cap purposes, even if he leaves afterwards. But he's actually from Columbus. If the Flames don't want to tank, take Boone Jenner. They have to make room at C for all of Lindholm, Johnson and Fantilli anyway.

Johnson is shaping up to be a LW. He’s hardly played C in the NHL. I expect the plan is to pair him with Fantilli going forward.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Marchenko
Johnson-Fantilli-Laine
Texier-Jenner-Bemstrom

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Haha. Tsn just ripped the flames. Kadri and Huberdeau in particular. Said they’ve both picked up right where they left off last season. Then mentioned that, prior to the heritage classic, Kadri had the same number of points (1A) as Markstrom. Kadri also has the 2nd worst +/- (-11) thru 9 games in franchise history.

[GullFoss]

They're not very good and instead of accepting responsibility, they convinced themselves (and everyone else apparently) that the coach was the problem.

Given how this summer played out, I imagine they put little effort into self-reflection with regards to how they might want to adjust their game and then do the relevant training.

They basically just wasted the off-season.

And given what we've seen from their personality so far with regards to blaming others, they could very well blame their teammates or team construction next.

This is a case study in what happens when you take zero accountability for your actions, and the people around you let you do that.

[ComixZone]

Dreger today on Barn Burner:

- It was the player who backed off
- He's going to leave a lot of money given the extension numbers he heard (but he won't disclose)

So even if the Flames did walk away as well, it sounds like the contract that was negotiated was a brutal one from the Flames perspective.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Dreger today on Barn Burner:

- It was the player who backed off
- He's going to leave a lot of money given the extension numbers he heard (but he won't disclose)

So even if the Flames did walk away as well, it sounds like the contract that was negotiated was a brutal one from the Flames perspective.

[Mass_nerder]

This back and forth on who backed away is so silly.
I get why each side wants to be the one who did it, but ultimately as a fan, I just want to hear what they're going to do now.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

This back and forth on who backed away is so silly.
I get why each side wants to be the one who did it, but ultimately as a fan, I just want to hear what they're going to do now.

You're fired! No I quit! lol

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Dreger today on Barn Burner:

- It was the player who backed off
- He's going to leave a lot of money given the extension numbers he heard (but he won't disclose)

So even if the Flames did walk away as well, it sounds like the contract that was negotiated was a brutal one from the Flames perspective.

Did I also hear that Dreger or Boomer think Iggy and Conroy want to rebuild this thing and thinks they have Edwards ear because they played for the Flames or something along those lines? I will try and listen again when I have more time

[rogermexico]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Did I also hear that Dreger or Boomer think Iggy and Conroy want to rebuild this thing and thinks they have Edwards ear because they played for the Flames or something along those lines? I will try and listen again when I have more time

The Barn Burner guys have speculated in the past that if anyone could talk Edwards into a rebuild, it would be Conroy and Iggy–that he'd be more inclined to listen to them than say a Treliving or a Feaster.

They floated that to Dreger today and Dreger said something along the lines of 'I think that they (I assume he meant Conny and Iggy) want to do that.' I need to re-listen to it to as well, it was interesting.