11-02-2023, 01:50 PM
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#101
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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Originally Posted by dino7c
I'm thinking I might start wearing one for the first time in my life...I am on LTIR right now though so it will be a while
what's the harm? although people in my beer league still don't wear visors
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No harm, you can also buy a shirt with a built in neck guard that might be more comfortable. Alot of this comes down to changing the culture of hockey and destigmatizing the idea that more protection makes you less manly.
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11-02-2023, 03:16 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by darockwilder
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Well he isn't wrong lol.
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11-02-2023, 03:34 PM
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#104
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Well he isn't wrong lol.
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Yeah, when that first came out I was like "ouch" but I also thought it was super clever.
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11-02-2023, 03:43 PM
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#105
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
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Ah yeah you’re right, I misread!
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11-02-2023, 05:40 PM
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#107
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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The shirt that Oshie and Wilson are wearing do not cover the majority of the Carotid or Jugular areas that would be the issue. I guess something is better than nothing. But neck guards will not solve this.
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11-02-2023, 05:56 PM
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#108
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Originally Posted by jlh2640
The shirt that Oshie and Wilson are wearing do not cover the majority of the Carotid or Jugular areas that would be the issue. I guess something is better than nothing. But neck guards will not solve this.
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You can still get brain damage wearing a helmet. And yet…
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11-02-2023, 06:08 PM
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#109
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You can still get brain damage wearing a helmet. And yet…
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Haha good point. I’m all for the idea of something is better than nothing. But that play is very bizarre that happened. Looks like a ninja kick to the throat lol.
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11-02-2023, 10:20 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Based on many of the comments here I figured this had to have happened in a scrum in the corner or something...not a full speed open ice incident.
There have been thousands of very deliberate actions in hockey of the years that could have lead to paralysis or worse, but thankfully those outcomes are rare. I don't think this incident fits that description...just a weird/unnatural movement, and even if the intent was to be 'dirty', it certainly wasn't as premeditated like so many others
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11-14-2023, 09:51 AM
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#111
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Scoring Winger
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He's just been arrested for manslaughter.
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11-14-2023, 09:55 AM
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#113
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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Originally Posted by Abstract
He's just been arrested for manslaughter.
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Wow. Having regrettably seen the video, it was maybe reckless by Petgrave but certainly not malicious.
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11-14-2023, 09:56 AM
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#114
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Originally Posted by Mattman
Wow. Having regrettably seen the video, it was maybe reckless by Petgrave but certainly not malicious.
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Which is the textbook definition of manslaughter
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11-14-2023, 09:57 AM
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#115
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by CMPunk
No harm, you can also buy a shirt with a built in neck guard that might be more comfortable. Alot of this comes down to changing the culture of hockey and destigmatizing the idea that more protection makes you less manly.
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I've been wearing one from a brand called Aegis. Got it on sale at sportchek. Comes with a foam insert that is supposed to provide impact protection but this additional pice is easily removable. Worn it for 3 games now and haven't had any issues. Feels just like the necks on those shirts that have them built in
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11-14-2023, 09:59 AM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Mattman
Wow. Having regrettably seen the video, it was maybe reckless by Petgrave but certainly not malicious.
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that's probably why it's manslaughter and not murder charges.
for the UK:
Where an unlawful killing is done without an intention to kill or to cause grievous bodily harm, the suspect is to be charged with manslaughter not murder. Apart from the absence of the requisite intent, all other elements of the offence are the same as for murder. There are primarily two types of involuntary manslaughter, that caused by an unlawful or dangerous act and that caused by gross negligence.
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11-14-2023, 10:11 AM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Barnet - North London
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The ‘play’ appeared an unnatural and reckless action. I don’t doubt the outcome wasn’t intended, but it did appear to be a manoeuvre to make some contact or to impede in a way that was not congruent with the rules and which was dangerous.
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11-14-2023, 10:15 AM
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#119
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Jethro Choicebro
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The guy may be rightfully charged with manslaughter. But he’s a human, not a monster. He’s faced an onslaught of threats and racial attacks following this. Plus the whole dealing with the fact that his action took a life. The fans of his team showing some support is a normal human response. How does this not age well?
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11-14-2023, 10:18 AM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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I figured something more would come out of this from a legal standpoint.
Not sure how anything would stick. But I have never seen anything like that in 50 years of playing and watching hockey.
I do think he intended to knee or kick him. I don’t think he obviously intended to kill him. But he did. I think there has to be some sort of an investigation. Whether it turns into anything or not.
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