What to do with Huberdeau?

[CroCop]

Easy. Keep dressing and playing him. The way he’s pretending to play hockey out there greatly improves our chances of losing games. That’s the goal now right.

[White Out 403]

I thought this Gaudreau talk with sarcasm. Holy smokes

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

The media is now starting to realize Sutter wasn't the problem.

OverDrive just roasting Huberdeau lol

Sutter wasn't fired because of the on-ice results.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He played 20 minutes the most all season I would hardly call that a benching.

He wasn't out in extra man situations before as well.

It's not working for him right now. I was at the game. He is trying, I can promise you that much.

Seems like everyone wants to blame him for everything when this wasn't his choice.

Its very clear his confidence is still shot, and it doesn't help that the coach shuffles lines every game, and we don't play a very fast brand of hockey. It's not a fit, but it should be when you invest the money you did in him.

This report confirms the Flames do lack the pace and offensive IQ to play a high end game that he may need, but it also confirms that Huberdeau is too often standing still, slow in general and not a guy who can take over a game or drive offense.

Bad fit and bad contract by GM Treliving again. It does fail to touch on why he's still hot garbage on the PP here, and this is where I will argue it comes down to effort and determination as much as it does your linemates skill or IQ and you rarely see him turn it on to the extent where he's bound and determined to win a puck battle or beat someone himself.

The stuff that is expected of someone being one of the highest paid players in the league should be second nature and not linemate or system based to this extent (maybe a reduction to 75-85 points is fair) where he's utterly useless unless fully catered to system-wise.

It's really disturbing that Treliving and scouting could have misjudged this player so badly in this case to think he would be a good fit now that more stuff like this comes out.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I thought this Gaudreau talk with sarcasm. Holy smokes

It wasn't realistic talk

Interesting he also only has 4 points though...these guys were #2 in the league

[Fourteen FTW]

Backlund. Fixed.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

He’s the most puzzling player ever for me. When I watch him I don’t know how he ever got 50 points let alone 100

He’s just … there. I haven’t seen a standout anything. Skating, shot, passing, winning pucks …it’s all ‘fine’ but how the heck did that guy ever be a ppg player.

[Burner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Sutter wasn't fired because of the on-ice results.

I hear what you are saying but do you really think he would have been fired if they had made the playoffs and won a round?

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Sutter wasn't fired because of the on-ice results.

As much as the blame on Huberdeau's failure was directed at Sutter, Sutter's antics last year can be blamed on the emotional distress he suffered having to put up with Huberdeau & Kadri.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Burner

I hear what you are saying but do you really think he would have been fired if they had made the playoffs and won a round?

Yes I do.
100%.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

As much as the blame on Huberdeau's failure was directed at Sutter, Sutter's antics last year can be blamed on the emotional distress he suffered having to put up with Huberdeau & Kadri.

There's no excuse for treating people poorly.

[InternationalVillager]

The changes to the Flames playstyle haven't really transpired as yet. It's been a grind changing systems and getting everyone onboard. Wouldn't be surprised if this team doesn't start clicking (if at all) until 30-35 games into the season and by that time, it might already be too late for the season.

This is why teams prefer to fire coaches during the season so they can iron out the kinks and work on systems the remainder of the season under a new coach. Example is the Vancouver Canucks off to a much better start this year. You can say this is due to Pettersson, Hughes etc being better players but the team also started changing systems and adjusting to life under Rick Tocchet last year.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by Burner

I hear what you are saying but do you really think he would have been fired if they had made the playoffs and won a round?

Based on stuff said and antics in the room that I heard of ya he was gone. It’s like he was losing his mind. Crazy.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Think of it this way.
They fired him after a successful year, coach of the year, where they just signed him to a new extension paying him $3M a year.
They are paying him that much now NOT to coach the team.
So whatever reasons they had to fire him, they were willing to swallow that.

Which is why whether or not he won a playoff round I don't think would have mattered.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Think of it this way.
The fired him after a successful year, coach of the year, where they just signed him to a new extension paying him $3M a year.
They are paying him that much now NOT to coach the team.
So whatever reasons they had to fire him, they were willing to swallow that.

Which is why whether or not he won a playoff round I don't think would have mattered.

Yeah I'm really getting tired of this Sutter narrative and having to affirm again and again that he wasn't fired due to on ice performance.

And because of that- you can't really imagine a cause and effect relationship between Sutter and the on ice performance this year and last year.

[Gaskal]

Get him a left shot sniper with good positioning IQ in the o-zone.

Too bad we already traded Mony haha

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

The whole concept of catering your team around Huberdeau is getting tiring (yet I understand why given the ridiculous contract) but at some point people need to realize that it's him that's the problem. We fired the coach who was apparently limiting his skillfulness and restricting his offensive abilities and he's continued to prove nothing at this point.

He also went back to his natural position and yet we continue to hear things like his line-mates are the problem. At this point it is 100% on the player. No more excuses - he just flat out doesn't have it as a Calgary Flame.

Frankly I'm not pleased that he wears a letter. He's shown nothing as a Flame and why exactly is that being rewarded? He's expected to put up points given the contract, but at this point I'm willing to accept a player who doesn't add negative value to the team. He's lifeless out there and the coach wouldn't even put him out with the goalie pulled last night. I'm guessing he's not going to return to his Florida numbers but not being a liability would be a step in the right direction. -11 ten games into the season is pathetic.

Couldnt agree more, so many of these "solutions" are foolish. How many people suggested the Flames hire Brunette as the coach or trade for his former linemates like Duclair? that is absurd. And yes the fact he wears a letter is embarrassing.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gaudreau won't waive to come here

He turned down the exact contract Huberdeau got

I don't want him anyhow. He came into camp not very fit and really doesn't care about hockey as much as his new family. You are not getting back the Johnny Gaudreau that played here.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Think of it this way.
They fired him after a successful year, coach of the year, where they just signed him to a new extension paying him $3M a year.
They are paying him that much now NOT to coach the team.
So whatever reasons they had to fire him, they were willing to swallow that.

Which is why whether or not he won a playoff round I don't think would have mattered.

Sutter wasn’t the problem. But he also wasn’t the solution. The hardcore Sutter defenders need to understand this. Also, while Huska obviously isn’t an elite coach, I like that he’s actually giving young guys a fair chance to prove themselves right away instead of keeping them in the press box for weeks

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Sutter wasn’t the problem. But he also wasn’t the solution. The hardcore Sutter defenders need to understand this. Also, while Huska obviously isn’t an elite coach, I like that he’s actually giving young guys a fair chance to prove themselves right away instead of keeping them in the press box for weeks

Truth, with Sutter Zary wouldn't have had the great game that he did because he would have never Gwen given the chance...Looch would have played top line minutes...

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