[Rumour] Francis: All contract talks on hold for Flames

[gvitaly]

New front office hire:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1719556198372888913

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

A majority of teams did not get strung along by their franchise winger right up to the last minute and then lose him for nothing.

Huby's drop off is also literally unprecedented in NHL history. I'm sure Brad had a crystal ball that told him it was going to happen?

He did and completely ignored it, or that's what CP would have you believe.

[Harry Lime]

I've said it once before, but Kadri exploded with a defensive specialist on one side, and rantenen on the other. We don't have a rantenen, but putting Coleman and mangiapane on his wings, and we might start to see some of the lost production.

Backlund can play with anybody.

[SmoggyFlamesFan]

I am fine with this. The status quo is unacceptable. Changes are being made. At this point I don't even care what they are. This team could not not possibly any worse than it is.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

A majority of teams did not get strung along by their franchise winger right up to the last minute and then lose him for nothing.

Huby's drop off is also literally unprecedented in NHL history. I'm sure Brad had a crystal ball that told him it was going to happen?

The Flames have no one to blame over the Gaudreau situation but themselves. He should have been traded long before. You knew the only two options were him leaving for nothing or you overpaying him into his late 30s.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Kadri was coming off an 87 point regular season and 15 points in 16 playoff games while winning the cup. We overpaid in term but the dollar amount wasn't insane for his production that year.

Completely fair/true. However, that season could be also described as an outlier. After that career high of 87 points in a season, his 2nd best season in his career is 61 points. So he was coming of a career year and 2 teams (Flames/Islanders) were offering $7 M but really he has only hit more than 61 points in a season 1 time in his career.

In terms of the thread title, a smart move IMO by Calgary. Based on the rumored numbers, it's smart to not re-sign Lindholm for that price.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Bat Boy as General Manager.

Nevar! Team #monkeyman4lyfe!

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

In a league where the majority of teams are in a win now mode and their owners permit the teams to spend to the cap it is a shame that that dynamic only drastically affected Brad Treliving.

Well I didn’t say that did I?
What evidence do you have that it only affected BT?

[Dajazz]

With Markstrom, Huberdeau and Kadri on the books this is not a rebuild I want to see.

Underperforming, overpaid hasbeens with questionable work ethics. I see no leadership there.

Unfortunately we are stuck with them, fuc-k you very much Treliving you clown.

I’ve followed this team from Sweden since the late 80’s and Loob. I’m done, stick a fork in me. I’ll check some results every now and then, but there are other teams which are more interesting to follow now.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

With Markstrom, Huberdeau and Kadri on the books this is not a rebuild I want to see.

Underperforming, overpaid hasbeens with questionable work ethics. I see no leadership there.

Unfortunately we are stuck with them, fuc-k you very much Treliving you clown.

I’ve followed this team from Sweden since the late 80’s and Loob. I’m done, stick a fork in me. I’ll check some results every now and then, but there are other teams which are more interesting to follow now.

Mangiapane was also just re-signed for 3 years at $5.8 million which 83% of Kadri's salary and I'm still wary of him turning into stale bread after capitalizing on some career high years that might be a fluke.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Mangiapane was also just re-signed for 3 years at $5.8 million which 83% of Kadri's salary and I'm still wary of him turning into stale bread after capitalizing on some career high years that might be a fluke.

Mang is in a 55 pt pace so far this season, 26g/26a. His performance this season is fine given his salary.

[Southside403]

What would zadorov fetch at the TDL? We need a few new studs we don't have any game breakers ever since jonny,mathew,monny,Benny.
We are not wining with this roster to many guys have checked out.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Southside403

What would zadorov fetch at the TDL? We need a few new studs we don't have any game breakers ever since jonny,mathew,monny,Benny.
We are not wining with this roster to many guys have checked out.

Zadorov is the only one in this roster that I want to keep at this point. That doesn't mean he would even want to stay though.

[SmoggyFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Zadorov is the only one in this roster that I want to keep at this point. That doesn't mean he would even want to stay though.

I would include Coronato and Wolf as propects to build around, and keep Zadorov. The rest can pack their bags.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

He did and completely ignored it, or that's what CP would have you believe.

I doubt anyone predicted Huby dropping off that bad but that doesn't change the fact that his contract is terrible.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

A majority of teams did not get strung along by their franchise winger right up to the last minute and then lose him for nothing.

Huby's drop off is also literally unprecedented in NHL history. I'm sure Brad had a crystal ball that told him it was going to happen?

He didn’t need a crystal ball, all the evidence was there and available for him. Gaudreau got married to a Philly gal instead of a Calgary gal back in the offseason of 2021. He needed to factor that in to the equation and it ended up being the back breaker.

Secondly, Huberdeau’s drop off wouldn’t have been a surprise if his pro scouts bothered to do any type of work beforehand. He was always destined to fail here with the current squad that’s been assembled and the current system they have in place.

It’s not the first time they didn’t do their homework either, James Neal and Troy Brouwer just name a few were not good fits either. You have to know your team better than anyone else and clearly, his group didn’t, never really did and still do not. That’s why this team is a complete mishmash of pieces with no chemistry, no identity and no direction.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

With Markstrom, Huberdeau and Kadri on the books this is not a rebuild I want to see.

Underperforming, overpaid hasbeens with questionable work ethics. I see no leadership there.

Unfortunately we are stuck with them, fuc-k you very much Treliving you clown.

I’ve followed this team from Sweden since the late 80’s and Loob. I’m done, stick a fork in me. I’ll check some results every now and then, but there are other teams which are more interesting to follow now.

Yet you indicated Calgary made out like bandits in the Tkachuk trade.

[White Out 403]

The excuse making for Tre is nearly unprecedented. The man is, at best, a mediocre GM.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Huby's drop off is also literally unprecedented in NHL history. I'm sure Brad had a crystal ball that told him it was going to happen?

No, nobody saw him being this bad. But there should've been some red flags for Treliving that he either chose to ignore or didn't even bother to look at. Why was Zito willing to move a guy that was coming off a 115 point year and probably ranked the #1 LW in the game at that point? And especially why was he seemingly willing to overpay heavily (+Weegar, 1st, prospect)? Zito could not WAIT to get rid of Huberdeau.

Now we can speculate why that is (over bloated career year, locker room clique, the strip club rumors etc) but generally in business if a deal is too good to be true, it's not. Instead Tre got a Trojan horse.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Well I didn’t say that did I?
What evidence do you have that it only affected BT?

I did not say that either, I said that it only “drastically” affected BT. I left room for others to be affected by that dynamic you mentioned and allowed the excuse for BT’s horrific GM skills to be still valid. But I will concede that maybe the pressure got to Brad and he made a string of consistent bad decisions leading us to the place we are today.