60 Things Men Should Know About Women!!

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

Paragraph A: I've highlighted the important word here. What SHOULD happen never does. That's the problem.

Paragraph B: We've established that women are emotion based creature, not logical. If she's "thinking" about it, that's a bad sign. She is doing one of two things at that time:
a) figuring out how to let you down without losing her shoulder to cry on.
b) deciding whether or not you'll do till something better comes along.
This is never going to work. A woman has to, HAS TO be able to figure out the value of a man in her life without being directed - otherwise she's an idiot (Another undesirable trait in a mate)

Paragraph 3: It's not unreasonable as long as both parties see the relationship for what it is. People tend to have/get bruised feeling climbing in or out of any relationship - frienship of more. Sometimes those feeling do more damage than you know.

Paragraph 4: They can. We've already agreed here.

Paragraph 5: Fun! But the parties involved (specifically women) need to be comfortable in their own skin in the morning. By that I mean, they need to be confident enough to say, "That was fun! Let's do it again!" and open the door for the relationship or "That was fun! But we're only hurting ourselves if we have a repeat." telling you that the relationship door is firmly closed.

WARNING: Your performance the night before will have little bearing on the words she chooses.

But the evil dark side of any man says there's something hilarious about the girl doing the walk of shame in the morning.

[Ayrahb]

This thread got me thinking of a question I've been wanting to ask the fine folks here:

Have you ever cheated/came really close to cheating on a serious relationship partner?

The closest I got was when my GF in college was away for a semester and I went to the College Caribbean Club party with my friends. After much bumping and grinding going on between me and one of my (female) friends and me pitching a tent on the dance floor, I excused myself and went to take a cold shower and then straight to bed. What made me feel even more guilty was that I was completely sober.

Other than that, I've been as loyal as a puppy.

[PYroMaNiaC]

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[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I actually like the challange of it. That and I've never seen someone argue like my mother, and if I didn't argue with her I'd never have gotten to drive the car when I was 17. Bring it on, might be why I enjoy this thread so much actually

Me too. I dislike it when my man walks away. I always want to say, "Stay. Lets have a good clean round. Winner takes all. Loser does dishes." But, alas, he's very anti-argument, even a quiet one, and he always leaves before the first round is even off.

My bone of contention here, is if she values the friendship shouldn't she respect you enough for the limb you went out on to atleast consider it? Why is friendship always about the guy in these debates?

Any relationship is a two way street and she is responsible for her actions. But, you can't change hers. Only your own.

[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by Ayrahb

I don't consider having female friends to be a bad thing in general. You bring up a good example of bars and clubs--that situation indeed works well.

What happens in long-term relationships, though? A question for CP ladies: honestly speanking, how well do you tolerate your long-term partner's female friends who are not really your close friends?

Honestly? I think girlfriends can be a good judge of girl friends intentions.

I was burned once by a guy who cheated with a "friend". Funny thing is though, that when I met her, I told him she wanted him. He blew my concerns off.

I'd met other girl friends of his at that point and I never got that vibe from any of the others.

Listen to your girlfriends inner voice. We're jealous when we have cause.

[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

But the evil dark side of any man says there's something hilarious about the girl doing the walk of shame in the morning.

What, exactly, does a walk of shame look like?


hmmm...maybe I have no shame....

[Flames09]

Originally Posted by FireFly

However, the question you responded to was "What means nothing?" Your response was "It means something," which doesn't answer the question at all.

So then what means nothing? not to be rude but what a ridiculous question, people make dating girls harder then it actually is, I think it makes them feel better about past relationships that they just couldn't get right. Girls will say well he doesn't know how to date a girl and guy will say well girls are just complicated, it's not easy but it's not rocket science, she is suppose to be your best friend, not some book you study.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

What, exactly, does a walk of shame look like?


hmmm...maybe I have no shame....

Err the walk of shame is when you sleep with a girl, especially one that all of your friends know, and in the morning when she leaves she ends up walking by your friend or room mate, and feels shame

[sadora]

Originally Posted by Ayrahb

This thread got me thinking of a question I've been wanting to ask the fine folks here:

Have you ever cheated/came really close to cheating on a serious relationship partner?

The closest I got was when my GF in college was away for a semester and I went to the College Caribbean Club party with my friends. After much bumping and grinding going on between me and one of my (female) friends and me pitching a tent on the dance floor, I excused myself and went to take a cold shower and then straight to bed. What made me feel even more guilty was that I was completely sober.

Other than that, I've been as loyal as a puppy.

I cheated on every girlfriend I had in high school and didn't feel too bad about it...you can only be young and careless once, or at least that was my mentality.

But I did have a few opportunities to cheat on a serious girlfriend but never did. She was away in South America and a new, pretty smoking waitress had started at the restaurant where I was working. She had just moved to the city and didn't know anyone so, and I swear about this, I was friendly with her without an alterior motive. She came on to me on a few occasions after working late and staying for drinks...anyone who's worked at restaurants knows what this lifestyle's like...but I never did anything even though I was tempted to.

When my girlfriend came back I was proud of myself because this was something that I had not been able to do when I was younger and felt myself maturing. A week after my girlfriend had been back in town she broke up with me because she met someone on her trip. Go figure. At first I was pretty heart broken and wishing I had not turned that waitress down, but in retrospect I'm glad I didn't because I proved to myself that I was emotionally ready for a serious relationship. While I still feel that I can make that type of commitment again I'm back to just playing the field before I can get back to trusting someone.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

Paragraph A: I've highlighted the important word here. What SHOULD happen never does. That's the problem.

Couldn't tell ya, I (as I'm sure every guy here) has had trouble getting over a chick, but there's only one guy I know that refused to. However I don't associate him with logic in any sense of the word. So I can't comment further other than "should" in a hypothetical situation.

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

Paragraph B: We've established that women are emotion based creature, not logical. If she's "thinking" about it, that's a bad sign. She is doing one of two things at that time:
a) figuring out how to let you down without losing her shoulder to cry on.
b) deciding whether or not you'll do till something better comes along.
This is never going to work. A woman has to, HAS TO be able to figure out the value of a man in her life without being directed - otherwise she's an idiot (Another undesirable trait in a mate)

I dunno, one of my best friends (who is like a sister to me) was surpirsed when asked out by her current boyfriend, and had to "think about it". Without question they're the strongest couple I know, and so in love it makes me sick. I'm happy for them, but it was a successful jump from friend ladder to relationship ladder, one that the girl had to think over. Her rationalle was "we were good friends, he's a shy guy, and it took a lot for him to ask me out, the least I could do was give him a chance." Fair enough, and she's beyond happy with that decision. So I guess when I see an example (one of a few I know of) where the girl does indeed think things over and realize what the guy means to her, it's worked out very well.

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

Paragraph 3: It's not unreasonable as long as both parties see the relationship for what it is. People tend to have/get bruised feeling climbing in or out of any relationship - frienship of more. Sometimes those feeling do more damage than you know.

agreed

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

Paragraph 4: They can. We've already agreed here.

that's right . . . I'm right! Oh Yeah!

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

Paragraph 5: Fun! But the parties involved (specifically women) need to be comfortable in their own skin in the morning. By that I mean, they need to be confident enough to say, "That was fun! Let's do it again!" and open the door for the relationship or "That was fun! But we're only hurting ourselves if we have a repeat." telling you that the relationship door is firmly closed.

WARNING: Your performance the night before will have little bearing on the words she chooses.

Oh I don't want a relationship . . . I want my reward for being the good guy, the shoulder to cry on, the one giving advice, blah blah blah . . . damn it I want my one night! Is that really so much to ask? I'll book the tickets to Arkansas if I have to!

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Flames09

So then what means nothing? not to be rude but what a ridiculous question, people make dating girls harder then it actually is, I think it makes them feel better about past relationships that they just couldn't get right. Girls will say well he doesn't know how to date a girl and guy will say well girls are just complicated, it's not easy but it's not rocket science, she is suppose to be your best friend, not some book you study.

Let's go through this logically here... We've already determing that when a woman is asked if anything is wrong and her answer is "Nothing" what she actually means is "something." Right?

Therefore:

"Nothing" means "something".

So, if "Nothing" means "something", what words do a woman use that actually mean "nothing" and not "something"?

Nothing does not mean nothing, nothing means something. So what does a woman say when she truely means nothing?

But really, don't worry about it. We've already gone over this.

[Flames09]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Let's go through this logically here... We've already determing that when a woman is asked if anything is wrong and her answer is "Nothing" what she actually means is "something." Right?

Therefore:

"Nothing" means "something".

So, if "Nothing" means "something", what words do a woman use that actually mean "nothing" and not "something"?

Nothing does not mean nothing, nothing means something. So what does a woman say when she truely means nothing?

But really, don't worry about it. We've already gone over this.

Isn't the whole reason why men are confused about this because we use the same word for both??? Nothing means something like you said, and when they actually mean nothing they actually use 'nothing' (by the way I was kidding about the whole 'something' just to make it confusing didn't think people would actually think I was being serious. HOLY CRAP this is getting messed, w/e the whole point is it's not that hard to date women, people just act like it is.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I think the whole "nothing" means "something" thing isn't that men don't understand what the woman means. But that he's angry that he knows what she means something, knows the woman means the definition of nothing, yet says nothing anyway.

It's like saying what's the worst hockey team in the world and saying "the Flames" when you know the other person really means "the Oilers".

And wouldn't saying "nothing" be technically lying in an honest and open realtionship?

(let's see how long we can keep this circular argument going for!)

[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Err the walk of shame is when you sleep with a girl, especially one that all of your friends know, and in the morning when she leaves she ends up walking by your friend or room mate, and feels shame

Why would she feel shame? Did she sleep with them too? I'm confused.

[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I think the whole "nothing" means "something" thing isn't that men don't understand what the woman means. But that he's angry that he knows what she means something, knows the woman means the definition of nothing, yet says nothing anyway.

It's like saying what's the worst hockey team in the world and saying "the Flames" when you know the other person really means "the Oilers".

And wouldn't saying "nothing" be technically lying in an honest and open realtionship?

(let's see how long we can keep this circular argument going for!)

umm...this is a very small white lie. And men do the same. For example, why do men insinuate that they want to be our friends, when really, they want to jump us? OR why do they tell us that our clothes are fine, when really, they would rather we wear something that doesn't make us look fat or better yet, nothing at all?

After all, this is about an open and honest relationship.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

umm...this is a very small white lie. And men do the same. For example, why do men insinuate that they want to be our friends, when really, they want to jump us? OR why do they tell us that our clothes are fine, when really, they would rather we wear something that doesn't make us look fat or better yet, nothing at all?

After all, this is about an open and honest relationship.

1. I want to jump your bones, plus be friends, it's not a lie it's just not complete information, lol

2. If you have clothes on you look fine, if you're naked you look awesome, again a difference

[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

1. I want to jump your bones, plus be friends, it's not a lie it's just not complete information, lol

2. If you have clothes on you look fine, if you're naked you look awesome, again a difference

So, I should make a list of the misinformation men feed us? Could take a while...

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by PYroMaNiaC

umm...this is a very small white lie. And men do the same. For example, why do men insinuate that they want to be our friends, when really, they want to jump us? OR why do they tell us that our clothes are fine, when really, they would rather we wear something that doesn't make us look fat or better yet, nothing at all?

After all, this is about an open and honest relationship.

1) As Q scout mentioned, it is incomplete, being friends is only part of it.

2) Completely unfair.

You've trained men to not to give you an honest answer to that question, you can't have it both ways.

[PYroMaNiaC]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

1) As Q scout mentioned, it is incomplete, being friends is only part of it.

2) Completely unfair.

You've trained men to not to give you an honest answer to that question, you can't have it both ways.

I have never asked my husband to lie to me about what I wear. If I ask and he shrugs his shoulders, it's not a favorite. He gives me gears constantly about a ratty red sweatshirt I've had for years. Sometimes I change to suit his fancy, sometimes I don't.

Have any of you considered dating someone who isn't nearly so insecure? Someone who knows her own mind and can handle criticism? I mean, from some of the examples you've shared, there are a lot of men who date women who can't make up their mind about what they want, rely on men to boost their self-esteem and, apparently, are shameful about having sex??? Just weird. (But I forget...men are logical, so there must be a reason for this. )

[Resolute 14]

Wanting to be your friend and wanting to jump your bones arent mutually exclusive desires. And I think for most guys, the friendship would be more important.