What can we do about Huberdeau and Kadri?

[FlamesAreOne]

It's blatantly obvious these two are not going to have success as Calgary Flames. They have almost 80 games with this club now, we got rid of the mean Head Coach who was supposedly the issue with this team, we've put them on top lines, top power play units, on the correct sides of the ice, essentially completely catered to them... yet the results are worse than last year.

Kadri is a -10 and Huby a -9, right near the bottom in the entire league. Aspects of what made them so good in the past (Huby's passing + Kadri's toughness/GAF meter) are some of their worst characteristics on a regular basis. The future looks grim to say the very least.

It's abundantly clear all parties involved are not happy with how things are at the moment. We're tied to them for the better parts of another decade on enormous $ deals. From the Flames brass POV, holy hell they must clearly know enormous, franchise altering mistakes were made. For the players POV, they got a beautiful payday setting them up with generation wealth, yet will truly loathe coming to play hockey for the remainder of their careers.

What can we honestly do with these two? Are you willing to slap substantial picks to them to simply get out of their contracts? How much $ are you willing to eat to accomodate a trade? Do we stay the status quo and see if any aspect of their game rebounds?

Or are we truly, royally F'd for the next 8 years and have no hope of them improving their game or moving them? (Likely the correct answer).

[Press Level]

The contracts are not movable, unless 1 or both them remembers how to play at a high level consistently. Both will either be bought out near the end of their contracts, or they will retire as Calgary Flames. Book it.

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Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

Or are we truly, royally F'd for the next 8 years and have no hope of them improving their game or moving them? (Likely the correct answer).

Probably this.

Only hope is they have a mini resurgence in production as some young talent's added around them.

But I expect both are buyout candidates halfway through these contracts.

[Puppet Guy]

[Spurs]

I had a small hope that maybe we could convince Montreal to take Hubredeau as they have a lot of young talent and having an older guy like him might help guys like Suzuki, Caufield, Slavkovsky (sp?) develop and take some pressure off them. They also had some dud deals that they might be willing to get rid of, but even that seems like a pipe dream at this point.

I can't see anyway we move Kadri, even if the team were willing to eat salary which I can't imagine the owners will do.

The best case scenario is that they continue to play at their low level and pout while we tear the team down around them and they don't do enough to harm our rebuild.

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Originally Posted by Spurs

I had a small hope that maybe we could convince Montreal to take Hubredeau.

Huberdeau for Monahan 1for1, who says no?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Buy out Kadri in 2 years, it won't be awful.

Maybe the Habs still want Huberdeau for anchors with shorter term?

If that's a no go then try to acquire players that can mesh with him or a past linemate like Duclair.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Icon

Huberdeau for Monahan 1for1, who says no?

Montreal for sure in my mind and because of the goals of the organization I think Calgary does as well, which is insane.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Icon

Huberdeau for Monahan 1for1, who says no?

The Habs do owe us future considerations for dealing them Monahan in the first place.

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make them do the fusion technique

[Jason14h]

Wait and hope - it’s all you can do right now

[Enoch Root]

There are a LOT of reasons contributing to why there hasn't been a Canadian team hoist the cup in 30 years, but without a doubt, impatience is #1

[Bonded]

Buyout Kadri when they need cap space and ride out Huberdeau's contract. Only thing they can really do. There is no point in attaching futures just to get rid of them to overpay for other free agents. Pray that they hit on this years draft like the Stars and that Honzek becomes a top 6 player

[Igottago]

I think Kadri will ask for a trade at some point. He doesn't seem happy. All his issues seem to be between the ears. And he seems like a disagreeable dude, so I can see him just saying I want out at some point.
Huberdeau I actually think has a good attitude, but he just isn't nearly as good as everyone thought.

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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

The Habs do owe us future considerations for dealing them Monahan in the first place.

Isn't future considerations basically just that the team owing that's GM buys the other team's GM dinner the next time the teams play?

Pretty sure it's just a workaround because they're not allowed to trade players for literally nothing or for $1.

[Southside403]

Kadri contract is more chewable and tradeable with retention vs huby I think we are screwed 10.5 is crazy but that's what tre left us with.

[1_Flames_Fan]

I think the coach needs to sit them for a couple games. Turn up the heat and see if they show any pride/gaf...if not on to the next step.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

There are a LOT of reasons contributing to why there hasn't been a Canadian team hoist the cup in 30 years, but without a doubt, impatience is #1

That's what led to the terrible contracts so agree with you there

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I think Kadri will ask for a trade at some point. He doesn't seem happy. All his issues seem to be between the ears. And he seems like a disagreeable dude, so I can see him just saying I want out at some point.
Huberdeau I actually think has a good attitude, but he just isn't nearly as good as everyone thought.

Doesn't matter if Kadri asks for a trade. No one else is touching that contract

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Icon

Isn't future considerations basically just that the team owing that's GM buys the other team's GM dinner the next time the teams play?

Pretty sure it's just a workaround because they're not allowed to trade players for literally nothing or for $1.

I don't know what it implies but the original post was in jest.