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Old 10-25-2023, 06:23 PM   #2881
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This is incredibly sad. I can't imagine losing my entire family to another country's air strike.

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Yeah, I'm the bad guy here. You have someone saying absolutely deplorable things about Palestinians and Muslims and is allowed to get away with it because he's Jewish and this thread. You're all just playing into that antisemitism get out of jail free card nonsense. A Jew can be just as racist and just as hateful as the next person and Behinio has shown that in spades. But calling that out is wrong? You wonder why this is such a contentious issue? There's a double standard in play here. You can bet your ass that if any of the Muslims said half the #### that has been said by this one poster they would have been launched into the sun by now.
Not sure how one individual in this thread, who’s Jewish, has any reflection on the millions of other Jewish people around the world. But there’s nothing wrong to call out an individual for inappropriate or disgusting behaviour, if one seems it necessary.

BUT, here’s your quote:

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if you are ever looking for a reason why people could possibly hate Jews and wish to do them harm look no further than your posts in this thread on this site.
Again, what does one individual have to do with millions of others? Are you trying to insinuate some form of stereotype here? To me, this sounds borderline antisemitic. I think you should retract your quote.
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This is incredibly sad. I can't imagine losing my entire family to another country's air strike.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1717229122760724792
There is speculation that his family was targeted in an attempt to intimidate journalists.
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There is speculation that his family was targeted in an attempt to intimidate journalists.
Truly disgusting behaviour. Didn’t Israel already murder another Al Jazeera journalist earlier in the conflict?
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Old 10-25-2023, 06:30 PM   #2885
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Beninho is obviously just a bad person in general, so it's no surprise their views are coming out as they are. You probably really don't want to hear what they really think deep down, though.
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Old 10-25-2023, 06:32 PM   #2886
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Not sure how one individual in this thread, who’s Jewish, has any reflection on the millions of other Jewish people around the world. But there’s nothing wrong to call out an individual for inappropriate or disgusting behaviour, if one seems it necessary.

BUT, here’s your quote:



Again, what does one individual have to do with millions of others? Are you trying to insinuate some form of stereotype here? To me, this sounds borderline antisemitic. I think you should retract your quote.
I won't speak for Lanny, but I read it as "in a world full of antisemitism, comments like yours don't help your cause."
Maybe it could have been said more tactfully, but I don't see anything over the line here.
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Old 10-25-2023, 06:35 PM   #2887
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Sorry, have you come back to answer any of the myriad of reasonable questions asked of you by many which you conveniently cease answering when it gets uncomfortable to your world view, or did you just pop in as your alter-ego; the Cowardly Lion of Zion who doesn't have the moral fortitude to actually call me a liar directly, while doing everything but typing out the words?
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I don’t think this thread should be closed.

I would be disappointed if it was.

Posters know where I stand on many of these issues.

Compared to the #### I have seen on social media, this thread has been a reasonable, rationale discussion, and with a few exceptions, free of emotion and personal attacks and insults.
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Hopefully a few breaks will help tone down the rhetoric and return some nuance.

A few Flames wins might also weirdly help the cause 'round here
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I thought this interview was interesting.

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I thought this interview was interesting.

Saw that as well alot of this stuff is beyond our imagination
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Old 10-26-2023, 12:34 AM   #2893
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Dude you know nothing about this conflict except that it pops up on your news feed, you go on and on about nothing. I know you can’t even name 3 Israeli Prime Ministers let alone know where Gaza is on a map. You go on and on about your hatred of religion like you are a scholar when your actual understanding of this conflict started 3 weeks ago. I don’t care what you think, you thought Muslims were an ethnic group. Bunch of nothing in your posts. Go ahead an hate Jews, its a long line hahah. I don’t need sympathy like virtue signallers like you.
Why are they not?

You and the other Jewish posters here fought me on a point I was trying to make that Judaism is a religion not an ethnic group. I was told repeatedly they are.

Why the double standard?

All I've seen is Jewish posters hate on Palestinians and Palestinians hate on jews.

I have aspergers the solution to this problem seems easier than not

Israel needs to stop occupation of the west bank and Gaza. Havee more support around those regions that help the populous with food,water,education etc etc.

That in turns makes the average person on the street go " Hey, our neighbour's ain't so bad ! Why is my government hating on them. Shows the Arab world you don't hate them.

Dont respond to every missile attack from Gaza. Your surrounded by one of the most technological advanced missile systems . Everytime you bomb back the Arab world sees that and adds fuel to the fire. If Gaza attacks and no damage is done. Just be the bigger nation and be like" It's a shame they can't be more like us, we want peace" If your not constantly trying to occupy the little they already have.

What I'm trying to say is look at WW2 as an example. The allies didn’t solely beat the axis powers solely by brute force and torture. They took German captives back to the States (and other countries) showed them kindness , fed them steak dinners set them up with a reasonable life. This led to showing the captured germans that " Hey these guys are not the evil ones we were told they were" . This lead them to giving up alot of good info , helping get nasa to the moon, creating nuclear energy ( and weapons... **cough**)


Hamas exists because of a radicalized population that believes Isreal is pure evil and they are only there because they need protection.
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Almost 30 years living in the conflict with family and friends murdered at the hands of British state sponsored terrorists and the subsequent lies and cover up's first hand enough for you?
Oh so you spectated it.

Cool

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Find your own quotes. That engaging in military activity from the top of a residential building constitutes using the residents of that building as human shields. Which I don't disagree with.
Who is dancing around now?

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Is that even a serious question? Are you being deliberately obtuse? British/Irish. Republican /Loyalist. Catholic/Protestant.
Hamas (& various other paramilitary organizations in Gaza) & Israel and by extension the IDF

Stop prattling on about The Troubles, or maybe save it for that thread.

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Old 10-26-2023, 10:15 AM   #2895
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Why are they not?

You and the other Jewish posters here fought me on a point I was trying to make that Judaism is a religion not an ethnic group. I was told repeatedly they are.

Why the double standard?
It's not a double standard. It's reality.

And it occurs for a pretty simple reason. Mainstream religions like basic Islam and Christianity are proselytizing religions, which means they actively try to convert others to their religion. Judaism is not a proselytizing religions. Conversions are rare and the religion is largely passed from parent to child. Additionally, Jewishness is seen as an ethnicity, as many "Jews" don't practice any religion but remain identifiable as Jews (by themselves and others) due to their background, culture, and physical appearance. Jews who do not identify with the Jewish religion have a strong tendency to intermarry with non-Jews (70% in the North America). Over time these people's descendants would likely cease to identify as Jewish.

Islam is a religion, for the most part. However, there are Muslim groups that fit the definition of ethno-religious group, as they do not proselytizing and largely perpetuate their religion and culture via birth. For example, the Druze practice their own form of Islam and do not believe in widespread intermarriage or conversion.
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Hopefully a few breaks will help tone down the rhetoric and return some nuance.

A few Flames wins might also weirdly help the cause 'round here
Then this conflict is truly doomed to continue forever
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Hopefully a few breaks will help tone down the rhetoric and return some nuance.

A few Flames wins might also weirdly help the cause 'round here
Something... something... who believes in miracles now?....

OR

All the prayers of muslims, jewish and christians could not make that happen...

OR

talking about wandering in the desert for 2000 years...

OR

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Maybe this thread needs another breather.
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This thread had gone about how I imagined it would go.
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Oh so you spectated it.
Cool
That's right.
All them mothers that have lost their children in Gaza.
All them children that have lost their parents.
They're nothing more than spectators.
What a disgusting repulsive take fitting of someone only fit to follow orders with zero critical thinking skills. It's cool?

You minimize death and murder with cool? You need help. Seriously.
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