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Old 10-25-2023, 10:29 AM   #1181
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It took a while, but I think they found the right balance. No one can be forced or coerced into supporting any of the initiatives and no one is restricted from supporting what they want.
Yes, congratulations to the NHL for being pushed and prodded into finally caving and making the right decision that was evident all along.

I give them no credit for "finding the right balance" because they created this issue where it never should've been one in the first place.
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How on earth would anyone take the wacky stance that they're being "forced" when they're simply being asked to participate in making people feel welcomed and included?
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Scotiabank: you're poorer than you think (and so are we!). Happy pride and home foreclosure. Government bailout soon plz?!?!
They are targeting the same sex population, because they aren't as likely to have kids, and are therefore more likely to have money.

*ducks bottles*
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I hope someone spears the Staal brothers and the deplorable Russians in the nuts with their pride taped stick!
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Old 10-25-2023, 11:50 AM   #1185
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I hope someone spears the Staal brothers and the deplorable Russians in the nuts with their pride taped stick!
If only Draisaitl was super progressive
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I hope someone spears the Staal brothers and the deplorable Russians in the nuts with their pride taped stick!
I don't. Violence is a good way to change a good cause into a heavily controversial cause.
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Old 10-25-2023, 12:04 PM   #1187
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I don't. Violence is a good way to change a good cause into a heavily controversial cause.
Nope. The only way you will change their homophobic thinkings is a spear to the nuts. Spear away!
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Old 10-25-2023, 12:16 PM   #1188
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They are targeting the same sex population, because they aren't as likely to have kids, and are therefore more likely to have money.

*ducks bottles*
I thought Canadas best bank (TD) was most pro-pride. Scotia Bank is also pretty much pro all-the-current-things, but it also is Canadas worst bank.

We can spend time arguing if rbc is better than TD or if cibc is worse than Scotia bank. All that said, Scotia bank is the worst bank.

Consider yourself warned.

Worst bank.
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Old 10-25-2023, 01:05 PM   #1189
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How on earth would anyone take the wacky stance that they're being "forced" when they're simply being asked to participate in making people feel welcomed and included?
Imagine being asked to support something you're against (rightly or wrongly) and the penalty for saying no is being ostracized by the public, yet the penalty for saying yes is the sacrifice of your own beliefs.

The topic right now is pride tape. Sometimes the topic is abortion. Sometimes the topic is war. Sometimes the topic is foreign policies. Sometimes the top is religion. Sometimes the topic is science. Sometimes the top is social programs. Sometimes the topic is... and on and on and on.

Obviously, I'm on the side of people being allowed to love and marry whomever they choose... but I'm not so oblivious to what's going on around me that I can't recognize the positions people are being placed in on either side.

I know, I know... pride tape is good... normalizing someone's freedom to be themselves is good... but maybe tomorrow's topic will be something you don't agree with. How are you going to feel then?

People should ultimately be free to believe in what they want to, or not believe in what they don't want to... but unfortunately there aren't many societies in the world that are mature enough to handle that sort of thing.

As I've said before, we should be striving to elminate the extremes on both sides. The ones that hate and act upon that hate in violent ways (physically, mentally, etc)... but also the ones that bully and ridicule whomever doesn't believe in the same things they do.

At the end of the day, it's not like Eric Staal is out there protesting against Pride or beating up LGBTQ+ people etc. He's just politely refusing to wear a jersey or use rainbow tape. We don't know what his upbringing was. Maybe he was raised in a strict, religious home and had it drummed into him from childhood that "gay is evil."

Maybe we can just put our jerseys on and tape up our sticks and support our causes without also having to point and laugh and throw rocks at whomever doesn't join in?

(Note that at no point in this post have I advocated in favour of any type of violence or denial of human rights. That kind of stuff should always be dealt with accordingly, regardless of what anyone believes in.)

Edit: I only mention Eric Staal because he's probably the biggest name of the players who didn't wear the jersey. None of this is specifically about Eric Staal. This isn't a "leave Britney alone" thing, I just used his name as an example.

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Old 10-25-2023, 01:10 PM   #1190
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Yes, congratulations to the NHL for being pushed and prodded into finally caving and making the right decision that was evident all along.

I give them no credit for "finding the right balance" because they created this issue where it never should've been one in the first place.
No, they really didn't. Society created the issue when the story last season was all about the 7 players who didn't wear a jersey instead of celebrating the 730 players who did. That's why we can't have nice things.


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No, they really didn't. Society created the issue when the story last season was all about the 7 players who didn't wear a jersy instead of celebrating the 730 players who did.
Those poor persecuted white millionaires
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Those poor persecuted white millionaires
Yeah I know right? F*** those guys who spent 12 hours a day for 10-15 years practicing and training to be among the very best in the entire world at what they do, and then got rich off of enteraining us all with what they learned.
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Yeah I know right? F*** those guys who spent 12 hours a day for 10-15 years practicing and training to be among the very best in the entire world at what they do, and then got rich off of enteraining us all with what they learned.
I know I would publicly state that I didn't support LGBTQ+ people if I was paid millions to play hockey instead of just putting on a jersey for 10 minutes and being like whatever like any other cause based jersey.
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I'm going to invent abortion tape, then profit!
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I know I would publicly state that I didn't support LGBTQ+ people if I was paid millions to play hockey instead of just putting on a jersey for 10 minutes and being like whatever like any other cause based jersey.
I'm not entirely sure I'm interpereting your post correctly, but I feel like I should mention that it's not like anyone called a press conference to announce to the world that they weren't going to wear the Pride jersey. They just simply didn't wear it, and the media (instead of writing about all the players wearing the jerseys) was like... "hey how come you didn't wear one?!" What a stupid question to ask them, as if they didn't know why someone wouldn't wear a Pride jersey.

Maybe I'm just stuck in Aaron Sorkin Land, but why couldn't they be like... "Yeah, I'm not an idiot. I know why he isn't wearing a jersey, but whatever. Let's just focus on everyone who did wear one, because that's the awesome part!" And then, of course, all the twitters were triping over themsleves to be the first ones to hashtagpubliclycondemn, and then all their followers were tripping over themselves to be the first ones to follow along... and then on and on and on...

Like, literally who gives a s##t? Why are we giving the Staal brothers any attention at all? Just let them be and focus on being supportive and welcoming and... all the good things.

Remember, the voice in Kevin Costner's head was, "if you build it, they will come" not "don't worry about building anything, just stand in your cornfield and yell at everyone who doesn't show up."

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Old 10-25-2023, 02:35 PM   #1196
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Black tape for Black History Month?
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Old 10-25-2023, 02:38 PM   #1197
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Black tape for Black History Month?
Lol damn, heart is in the right place...

black, red, yellow and green are the colours of black History Month
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Just trying to think of a group of people who still have rocks thrown at them.... hmmm.....

Maybe bigots can be ostracized.
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Hope all the red tape doesn't hold up your business idea.
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That's African American tape sir.

Did I have deja vu, or did we actually post these things last year too?
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