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butterfly · 10-24-2023, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

D coverage is fine...the game was 1-0 at even strength against a high flying team

1-1 at even strength. 1-0 at 5v5.

Sandman · 10-24-2023, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by taxbuster

Maybe - the problem is that KD Lang stole his wife so he's mad at Calgary...and meanwhile is making a zillion dollars as the value of his franchise goes up and the quality of his team drops to some subterranean depth. He is punishing us!!

LOL, KD Lang stole his wife????

All In Good Time · 10-24-2023, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GullFoss

The worst thing about all of this is that Sutter probably accurately assessed exactly what Huby and Kadri were as players and was probably trying to teach them how to be an effective part of a championship team. And instead of becoming team players and learning from Sutter (like Iggy and Kopitar and Richards and Carter and Brown did)...Huby and Kadri just ####ed around all season and learned #### all.

And they were still close to making it to the dance

Ferarri · 10-24-2023, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

It isn't though. Huberdeau has always been an all-star, Kadri is a 70 point talent, Lindholm is a very talented 2 way centre, Mangiapane has a great shot, etc... What, these guys suddenly forgot how to be good??? It's this fn terrible perimeter shot system, full tilt. The only thing that is been remotely productive was the Gaudreau- Lindholm, Tkachuk line and that worked because they didn't play that system, they did there own thing that as Darryl put it was just guys wanting to pad their personal stats. So sick of people on here saying they have no talent, every hockey expert said they had one of the deepest rosters in hockey.

These comments were made when they first acquired Huby, Weegar and Kadri. It hasn’t translated to success and the team record speaks for itself. Analysts are often wrong and there wasn’t any that I’m aware of calling this a deep roster in the offseason. It’s a roster of good complimentary pieces. There is no upper end or elite talent which you need in this league.

Mr.Coffee · 10-24-2023, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by taxbuster

Maybe - the problem is that KD Lang stole his wife so he's mad at Calgary...and meanwhile is making a zillion dollars as the value of his franchise goes up and the quality of his team drops to some subterranean depth. He is punishing us!!

It’s not a “maybe”. It’s 100%.

Won’t allow a rebuild. Won’t even allow people to say the word. The height of stupidity. And he doesn’t need anymore ####ing money either. Flames need a new owner worse than any other NHL team.

Things will improve after he’s out. Hopefully it’s after the building is finished so he can capitalize on his rape of the city and go live in Switzerland forever. He’s literally like an evil villain at this stage.

taxbuster · 10-24-2023, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandman

LOL, KD Lang stole his wife????

https://pagesix.com/2014/09/17/k-d-l...ionaires-wife/

(first ref I could find)

dino7c · 10-24-2023, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by butterfly

1-1 at even strength. 1-0 at 5v5.

yes 1-0 5 on 5

4 on 4 goal wasn't on the systems either

ComixZone · 10-24-2023, 10:49 PM

Flames currently poised to draft 8th.

Gotta get 1st or 2nd.

I'm getting pretty stoked about how bad this year's team may actually be.

DomeFoam · 10-24-2023, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

Because they are playing the same way in the o zone. Do you actually watch hockey? Like do you not understand that you can actually watch and see what they are doing? Try it sometime before shooting your mouth off.

After 7 games the same players look the same? Wild! Thanks for the suggestion. I suggest you quit watching.

DazzlinDino · 10-24-2023, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GullFoss

The worst thing about all of this is that Sutter probably accurately assessed exactly what Huby and Kadri were as players and was probably trying to teach them how to be an effective part of a championship team. And instead of becoming team players and learning from Sutter (like Iggy and Kopitar and Richards and Carter and Brown did)...Huby and Kadri just ####ed around all season and learned #### all.

I was thinking this too, because in order for Huberdeau to be a top line guy he has to play a 200 foot game. Last game when he got caught coasting was a prime example of why he was not a first line guy in Florida and Barkov was. He has to bring it and if he is not scoring he has to have a strong 2 way game.

FanIn80 · 10-24-2023, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Tkachuk said he wanted to sign long term and then requested to be traded to a couple teams few weeks later when he was still under contract for another season

He didn't ask to be traded, he just told Treliving he wasn't going to sign an extension. I get it's kinda the same thing, but Tkachuck was way more upfront than Johnny was and made sure the Flames got something for him. Johnny literally agrred to a new contract one day and then went back on his word then next, with no time left to even try to trade him.

Besides... to this day, I remain convinced that Tkachuk really did want to stay but it all hinged on getting Sutter to relent on his "no-Captain" schtick. I think he talked to Sutter after the season ended and that's what switched him from wanting to stay vs wanting to leave.

I can't imagine anyone deciding to stay and work for a stubborn boss who refuses to bend on anything, when they have an opportunity to go somewhere else and be way more appreciated.

dissentowner · 10-24-2023, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferarri

These comments were made when they first acquired Huby, Weegar and Kadri.

It was every sports Network and magazines preview for this year.

taxbuster · 10-24-2023, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Flames currently poised to draft 8th.

Gotta get 1st or 2nd.

I'm getting pretty stoked about how bad this year's team may actually be.

They won't be bad "enough" though.

dino7c · 10-24-2023, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

I was thinking this too, because in order for Huberdeau to be a top line guy he has to play a 200 foot game. Last game when he got caught coasting was a prime example of why he was not a first line guy in Florida and Barkov was. He has to bring it and if he is not scoring he has to have a strong 2 way game.

Barkov missed a ton of games...Huberdeau was on the top line a lot
he outscored Barkov by 27 points

Flames need to help him figure it out, there is no other choice. Current players aren't working. Get some new ones, change the style, whatever

TheIronMaiden · 10-24-2023, 10:51 PM

BT should have been fired the day that JG walked for nothing.

TrentCrimmIndependent · 10-24-2023, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Flames currently poised to draft 8th.

Gotta get 1st or 2nd.

I'm getting pretty stoked about how bad this year's team may actually be.

I don't know how good this draft is, but if they could trade Lindholm, Hanifin and Tanev for futures, they could fill the cupboards with some proper skill, which they currently do not have.

dissentowner · 10-24-2023, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DomeFoam

After 7 games the same players look the same? Wild! Thanks for the suggestion. I suggest you quit watching.

Omg this like debating with a grade 2 lol. I have better things to do.

FanIn80 · 10-24-2023, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by taxbuster

https://pagesix.com/2014/09/17/k-d-l...ionaires-wife/

(first ref I could find)

"Besides their enthusiasm for sushi, k.d. and Heather..."

wow, lol.

ComixZone · 10-24-2023, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by taxbuster

They won't be bad "enough" though.

No telling how low they can fly, man!

dino7c · 10-24-2023, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

He didn't ask to be traded, he just told Treliving he wasn't going to sign an extension. I get it's kinda the same thing, but Tkachuck was way more upfront than Johnny was and made sure the Flames got something for him. Johnny literally agrred to a new contract one day and then went back on his word then next, with no time left to even try to trade him.

Besides... to this day, I remain convinced that Tkachuk really did want to stay but it all hinged on getting Sutter to relent on his "no-Captain" schtick. I think he talked to Sutter after the season ended and that's what switched him from wanting to stay vs wanting to leave.

I can't imagine anyone deciding to stay and work for a stubborn boss who refuses to bend on anything, when they have an opportunity to go somewhere else and be way more appreciated.

He forced a trade and had final say on the teams