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Sandman · 10-24-2023, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

When the team can't move the puck in the offensive zone and just turn it over that is on Ryan Huska. His team's don't score a lot and they don't defend well this year either. Coaching matters more than anything. The history of the NHL is full of average teams making the playoffs because they had a good fit at coach.

Thanks for these comments. Coaching is so underrated by most fans.

Ashasx · 10-24-2023, 10:29 PM

the only thing keeping me going is the oilers losing

Mathgod · 10-24-2023, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Special teams were no good, Markstrom with a soft goal against, and the team couldn't finish.

I didn't hate their game at 5v5 to be honest, created lots of chances and Shesterkin was good.

Special teams in the second was what killed then.

Creating chances has never been this team's problem. Burying those chances always has been and continues to be.

Samonadreau · 10-24-2023, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

You spelled Tkachuk wrong

Tre signed him to 3yr contract. Tre gave Tkachuk the control.

Plus it was more Johnny then Tkachuk. Not sure why you hate Tkachuk so much.

SemicolonD · 10-24-2023, 10:30 PM

This isn't even the inconsistent Flames with flashes of brilliant games thrown in here and there. Just utter garbage every game.

WCW Nitro · 10-24-2023, 10:30 PM

I guess Treliving was a wizard, he created an impossible situation for the Flames.

Muta · 10-24-2023, 10:31 PM

I know it's still early in the season, but I'm not impressed with Huska's system.

dissentowner · 10-24-2023, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by colbym72

No. It’s been too many of the same guys for years. They are not talented enough.

What is it about Huska that you hate so much and that you hated before the season?

What is there to like?? He did nothing with our AHL team but stunted the growth of any young forward he had. I said during the coaching search when people said this team needed to score more that I'd you thought the offence was bad under Darryl you have no idea how poor it will be if they hire Ryan Huska. The guy has accomplished nothing as a pro coach, nothing. Why in hell if you thought you had a roster that was ready to win now would you bring in this guy?? The Flames dumpster dived on this guy, bottom line. He has absolutely no clue how to coach forwards or how to play a system that generates offence.

TrentCrimmIndependent · 10-24-2023, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SemicolonD

This isn't even the inconsistent Flames with flashes of brilliant games thrown in here and there. Just utter garbage every game.

Draft pick eh? I smell a troll.

All In Good Time · 10-24-2023, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferarri

Rhett brought up a good point on barn burner. What can Huska do when it comes to venting his frustrations with this group or chewing them out? Can you be the tough boss in this situation given the circumstances of last year? Essentially is he powerless with this group because of how they chased away Darryl? Will they tune him out and quit on him to if he is the bad guy?

I guess it doesn’t really matter because this roster just isn’t talented enough to get the job done. At some point there has to be some type of acceptance with management that this team and the way it is constructed is seriously flawed.

It all goes back to what many said wasn’t happening last year
They weren’t having fun
That’s the main objective
It’s on the players now
No more excuses and everyone need to stop looking back

flamingred89 · 10-24-2023, 10:31 PM

Jesus Bradley sewered this team. And then the fans chased out the only man who has done anything for this team in the last 30 years. Pathetic franchise. But I think the players are having fun. Apparently that's all that matters these days.

Spurs · 10-24-2023, 10:32 PM

This team is not good enough no matter who the coach is. The roster is not good overall, it is a terrible mix of players as well. Pick the greatest coach that is the perfect fit for this team and they are not overcoming the severe lack of talent this team has compared to the actual good teams in this league.

That said the roster cannot be good enough and Sutter can have treated people like #### last year. The roster can be mediocre and Huska can also be a bad coach. I think all those things are all true, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

FanIn80 · 10-24-2023, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

That’s a bad group of hockey players.

We are so short of talent compared to the other teams.

Huberdeau is washed up.

Huberdeau had EIGHT seasons with less than 70 points and TWO seasons with more than 80 points. He's not washed up, he just is what he is. A permeter accessory player. He needs to be inbetween a skilled driver that can rush the zone and a skill finisher that can drive to the net. He's a middle man.

gvitaly · 10-24-2023, 10:32 PM

I actually really liked how the Flames came out in this one. We had a lot of rush chances, and good opportunities both 5 on 5 and on the PP. Right now everyone is gripping their sticks a bit tight, that said, I liked the effort.

We're still missing our #1D! Ruzicka got injured half way through the game. The Kadri, Backlund, and Lindholm lines all had chances. There was a good push in the 3rd, and Markstrom made a lot of good saves. NYR are a good team, and we're a middle of the pack team. I still think that the Flames can look a lot better especially if the players figure it out in our own zone.

Calgary4LIfe · 10-24-2023, 10:33 PM

This is probably just coming out of some frustration, but...

Did Huberdeau actually make a successful pass all game? I am sure he did, but at one point I started actively looking for it and didn't see one. If I am the coach of any team, I am telling my players that Huberdeau is a solid pass option if everyone else is covered - he will find a way to pass it back.

I honestly don't think that the Flames necessarily deserved to lose this game. Shesterkin made some great saves, Rangers got the bounces, and the Flames get the L. If all of last season and the first road trip this season hadn't existed, this probably would have felt like a 'good loss' that they can build off of. This felt nothing like a good loss. This is the kind of game that makes you feel like the season is slipping away already, and it shouldn't since this is the 2nd home game.

Infinit47 · 10-24-2023, 10:33 PM

Flames had full control deep with 3 minutes left and Huska wouldn't pull the goalie. Then he pulls the goalie too late and sends Hunt out there.

Honestly, the Flames didn't play horrible. A good game by Shesterkin and Markstrom letting in a softie is the game story.

Manhattanboy · 10-24-2023, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

Huberdeau had EIGHT seasons with less than 70 points and TWO seasons with more than 80 points. He's not washed up, he just is what he is. A permeter accessory player. He needs to be inbetween a skilled driver that can rush the zone and a skill finisher that can drive to the net. He's a middle man.

Caps added for emphasis?

Ashasx · 10-24-2023, 10:33 PM

is there any chance huberdeau simply retires

FlamesAddiction · 10-24-2023, 10:33 PM

Does anybody know why Huberdeau didn't play tonight?

TrentCrimmIndependent · 10-24-2023, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Muta

I know it's still early in the season, but I'm not impressed with Huska's system.

Huska is going to have a bad time. Kind of feel for the guy.

His system probably sounded good in theory. In practice, he's in over his head. You can't solve a low skill roster with one system adjustment. There are many factors to head coaching in this league, and not all of them are pretty.