No issue with forcing players to think more about really blowing up a player with a hit because you no longer care about your positioning after the hit because the game is out of reach.
Maybe it would have made no difference, but Anderson has zero reason to make the same decisions he would have done at say the half way point of the game when the result still hangs in the balance. Making players think twice about making hits that take them completely out of position afterward because they don't care about their position afterwards is a good thing.
It's a mindset shift. Point of hits in hockey is to separate from the puck, to defend against a goal and switch the puck possession team. As soon as that mindset shifts to, I just want to cause the most damage I can within the rules, I don't care what happens after my hit....it becomes predatory. Even if Anderson's hit was technically clean, we need to shift the culture from predatory hits (even if they are technically legal) cause that's where people get really really hurt.
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No I don't because I am not a pathetic homer that has to live with a fake persecution complex that the league has some vendetta against the Flames.
lol we will see
odd that the suspension that sets a new bar is against the Flames
wonder if Lucic gets suspended for punching a guy with a glove after he hacks the goalie this season. Doubt it.
Think Tkachuk will get a game for a love tap on the back of someones leg this year? doubt it
There is mountains of evidence that the league treats certain teams differently...Flames are just one of those small market Canadian teams that is an easy pushover for the league. Heck our own fans dont even stand up for the team.
It’s not a matter of just comparing previous hits to see if the other guys got less. The NHL statement made it clear that the context of when it happened played a major part in the length of the suspension. So you’d need examples of hits to the head that took place in the dying seconds of a game that was out of reach to have a fair comparison.
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It’s not a matter of just comparing previous hits to see if the other guys got less. The NHL statement made it clear that the context of when it happened played a major part in the length of the suspension. So you’d need examples of hits to the head that took place in the dying seconds of a game that was out of reach to have a fair comparison.
okay so no trying to score with 5 seconds left if the game is out of reach
be real, the league didn't go longer because they would have had their asses handed to them by a third party appeal
remember a Flames suspension was reduced from 20 to 10 lol
Sure the League has a vendetta against the Flames for no reason, a vendetta that they have managed to keep completely hidden despite it requiring multiple people with zero reason to keep it quiet all agreeing to just randomly screw the Flames.
All this is happening with Edwards being one of the more powerful/influential owners and never once complaining about it and just being happy letting his team continually getting screwed. I am sure he is just fine with it.
Again its not just the Flames...but they are one of the teams that are an easy pushover for the league. Everyone knew this suspension would have Flames tax
Go look at the Lucic and Tkachuk suspensions when they were on the Flames
Then Tkachuk as a 3rd time offender gets 2 games for intentionally sticking a goalie in the eye through the mask as a Panther
shocking the new bar is set in Calgary.
Wideman suspension was reduced BY HALF by a third party after Gary drug he feet so long that it didn't matter on the ice
Coleman goal in the playoffs?
The "reason" is there is little to no pushback...
League is pumping the Oilers hard this season, they would prefer an Oiler win in the winter classic obviously
I mean Kassian got 7 games for kicking a player in the chest with his skate and it was like his 5th suspension...4 games is insane, just happened to include the Winter Classic...what a coincidence
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okay so no trying to score with 5 seconds left if the game is out of reach
be real, the league didn't go longer because they would have had their asses handed to them by a third party appeal
remember a Flames suspension was reduced from 20 to 10 lol
That position though, while I get your point, doesn't factor in that one thing doesn't have a chance to hurt someone, the other does. Anderson has options to try and stop that goal as well, which aren't deliver crushing hit, that were likely more effective at stopping the goal. My thought would be, the problem is Anderson actually didn't do the most effective thing to stop the goal, he tried the lay the biggest hit he could...........which for me is the issue. Hits when there primary purpose are to be the most effective play to accomplish defending and driving turn overs = good, hits that's primary purpose is punish and inflict damage = bad
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Really I don't have an issue with 4 games for what he did. It's exactly the predatorial type of play they want to eliminate from hockey. My only issue is that the league isn't consistent with their punishment but if this is the norm going ahead then I'm fine.
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You being upset with lengths of suspensions has nothing to do with the league having zero reason to hold a vendetta against the Flames, with why Murray Edwards would be fine with them having this vendetta against the Flames and why all the people that would have to be quiet about this vendetta would stay quiet about it.
As with all silly conspiracy theories it makes zero sense. There is no evidence or reason for it to be true at all.
It is also a position held by all crazy homers, with every team, in every league in sports.
all teams don't have a mountain of evidence like Flames fans
Tkachuk as a Flame has the softest suspension in NHL history
Lucic a close second
Biggest suspension reduction in NHL history by a 3rd party
Coleman kick goal against the Oilers who you know damn well the league wanted in round 3
I mean TSN has a top 10 list of worst calls in HOCKEY history and 2 are against the Flames...a relatively new team
but hey set the "new standard" just happens to be against the Flames, darn the luck
Tkachuk got a one game suspension for tapping a guy on the leg
In Florida he got 2 games for trying to stick a goalie in the eye after the whistle (3rd time offender)
not point in arguing with you since you aren't even a Flames fan anyway, you wouldn't understand
I'm just glad I don't give the league money anymore...hopefully Florida and Anaheim can keep that salary cap rising
I mean...GL debating me with this video evidence
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Said it before I'll say it again. Calgary is a middle of the road team that no one outside of this market pays attention to or cares about and the NHL can make an example of them because no one outside of Calgary will get upset or even care.
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Really don't think his intent was to injure Laine he was just going for a hit, it was unfortunate.
It was a split second thing decision to go for the hit.
Nope. Just, no.
A player leaving his feet the way Andersson did when launching into a hit is not "just going for it." He knows the rules as well as anyone, and has managed to—hundreds of times in this career before this—initiate and complete perfectly legal body checks. Andersson's actions in this incident went far, far beyond "just going for the hit," which then can also be interpreted to stem from an element of predation or malice.
The right call was made, and Andersson will serve his very justly earned infraction for breaking the rules, and severely endangering another player on the ice.
I get the frustration at the mind-blowing inconsistency that NHL Player Safety has employed in their wildly imbalanced indictments, but there should be NO EXCUSES for Andersson's actions here.
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