Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[darockwilder]

TuneIn is playing them as well. Often both ads back to back.

[Faust]

The Breakdown

What does a former Prime Minister, a right wing activist group, from the early 2000's, a UCP Leadership race campaign manager, Rob Anderson's old boss & an overpriced marketing campaign to rip Alberta out of the CPP have in common?

Strap in for a WILD ride!

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#abpoli #cdnpoli

https://x.com/thebreakdownab/status/...100878520?s=61

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Slava

What game of chicken? Smith can't just decide that she's taking the money and going ahead with the APP. She's committed to a referendum (at the very least), and public support for this seems to be extremely low.

Then she's got this idea that Alberta is taking half the money, and that's clearly not happening just because she wants that to be the case.

I doubt Smith has any illusions that an APP would pass a referendum. She’s a demagogue throwing red meat to the sovereigntist wing of the UCP.

[Faust]

The Breakdown

Last night we took a look at Smith's keynote appearance for grif-

Er.

"Charity" media organization "True North".

Smith railed against the media, but what she showed is a complete lack of understanding of what journalists do & why it's so important.

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://x.com/thebreakdownab/status/...926813732?s=61

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1710802919455412561


Ah, there's the honesty we need.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I doubt Smith has any illusions that an APP would pass a referendum. She’s a demagogue throwing red meat to the sovereigntist wing of the UCP.

You may be right on her expectation. If so, is she doing this solely for political gain, and is there some way she can push through an APP despite a plebiscite loss (which I think is inevitable)?

I can’t imagine the answer to the first question being yes, given the unpopularity of the APP. On the second question, I have no idea.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

You may be right on her expectation. If so, is she doing this solely for political gain, and is there some way she can push through an APP despite a plebiscite loss (which I think is inevitable)?

I can’t imagine the answer to the first question being yes, given the unpopularity of the APP. On the second question, I have no idea.

She’s doing it to the keep the populist wing of the UCP from spinning off into their own party yet again. The political calculation is that as long as the right can stay united, they have a good chance to form the government in Alberta.

I doubt she can push an APP through without a referendum. If this dog-and-pony show gets to the point where the APP is a real possibility, Alberta’s corporate community (who are big UCP donors) will put their foot down.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

She’s doing it to the keep the populist wing of the UCP from spinning off into their own party yet again. The political calculation is that as long as the right can stay united, they have a good chance to form the government in Alberta.

That may be part of it but I think a larger part is that she IS a populist that's been pushing for this for years.

I doubt she can push an APP through without a referendum. If this dog-and-pony show gets to the point where the APP is a real possibility, Alberta’s corporate community (who are big UCP donors) will put their foot down.

Historically, this isn't how right-wing politics has played out in recent years. In the US, the Tea Party came in as a protest to Obama being too black. The mainstream right assured us that if the Tea Baggers went too far that they would rein them in and take control. Instead, the loonies took over and got a President elected. In Canada, we were told that when the Reform Party merged with the PC's that the PC's would tamper down the fringes of the Reformers. Instead, the Reformers set up camp and have now elected 3 of the past 4 Federal leaders of the party. When Wildrose merged with the PC's in Alberta we were told that the Lake-Of-Fire bozos would shrivel away and the grown-ups would be in control. They all had to leave to create the dying-on-the-vine Alberta Party. The point is, that once the right-wing radicals infiltrate they generally take over, and that is not good for anyone.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Faust

The Breakdown

Last night we took a look at Smith's keynote appearance for grif-

Er.

"Charity" media organization "True North".

Smith railed against the media, but what she showed is a complete lack of understanding of what journalists do & why it's so important.

#abpoli #ableg #cdnpoli

https://x.com/thebreakdownab/status/...926813732?s=61

Any non-twitter ways to view? won't let non-subscribers go past the first tweet

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I doubt Smith has any illusions that an APP would pass a referendum. She’s a demagogue throwing red meat to the sovereigntist wing of the UCP.

This is a $$$$ of red meat. She doesn't need to exert that much effort or spend that much money to satisfy them. She really wants this.

[FireGilbert]

Gotta give Smith and the UCP credit for figuring out how to govern in a post truth world.

They can do whatever they want while deflecting and denying any controversies. Just need to throw enough red meat at the fringe elements while keeping moderates in line to keep the party united. Then at election time they will hope voters have a short memory and run a tight election campaign promoting their economic skills while stoking fear in the opposition.

[Fuzz]

Alberta hospitals used the government-imported Turkish children’s pain medication for six months before being ordered to stop and switch back to standard dosage domestic acetaminophen, according to an internal Alberta Health Services (AHS) bulletin.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...s-ahs-bulletin


Just a reminder that people voted for the UCP after this debacle, and somehow expect them to be a competent government. And yet posters around here still try to convince me that people aren't fundamentally stupid.


/incoming login hack attempt on my CP account. Pro tip, you aren't going to guess it.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by fuzz

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...s-ahs-bulletin


just a reminder that people voted for the ucp after this debacle, and somehow expect them to be a competent government. And yet posters around here still try to convince me that people aren't fundamentally stupid.


/incoming login hack attempt on my cp account. Pro tip, you aren't going to guess it.

1234?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

/incoming login hack attempt on my CP account. Pro tip, you aren't going to guess it.

do you think another CP user is trying to hack

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

do you think another CP user is trying to hack

No, I think it's a previous CP user, some giant loser who got banned for being a wiener head, like Macman. Unfortunately they are thick enough to think they can guess a password with over 100 bits of entropy with 5 tries every 15 minutes, and that this would benefit them in some way. I don't think they have done the math on this.


That, or having CP send me these password breach notices is the only way they can reach out for attention. In which case, "it's ok little guy, I know life is tough. We recognize you. Good day, sir, and get bent."

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

1234?

That's amazing! I have the same combination on my luggage!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

No, I think it's a previous CP user, some giant loser who got banned for being a wiener head, like Macman. Unfortunately they are thick enough to think they can guess a password with over 100 bits of entropy with 5 tries every 15 minutes, and that this would benefit them in some way. I don't think they have done the math on this.


That, or having CP send me these password breach notices is the only way they can reach out for attention. In which case, "it's ok little guy, I know life is tough. We recognize you. Good day, sir, and get bent."

who was the other dude that.....puckluck et al.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That, or having CP send me these password breach notices is the only way they can reach out for attention. In which case, "it's ok little guy, I know life is tough. We recognize you. Good day, sir, and get bent."

Interesting. Do you see the password they attempted to use? Are they sending messages through their attempts?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

who was the other dude that.....puckluck et al.

Puckluck was just a weirdo.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Interesting. Do you see the password they attempted to use? Are they sending messages through their attempts?

No, the forum just sends an email like this:

Spoiler!

Dear Fuzz,

This is an automated message.

Someone has tried to log into your account on Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community with an incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been prevented from attempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes.

The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 208.78.41.108

This is most likely a spammer trying to gain access by guessing passwords. You can reduce the risk by ensuring your password is robust., otherwise no other action is necessary to ensure your account remains secure.

All the best,
Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

The loser must have a somewhat more intelligent friend that showed them how to use a VPN.