Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[aaronck]

The video also received coverage on Fox News and Britain’s Daily Mail, and has millions of views on social media site X.

“Guess he like them apples,” Elon Musk wrote in response to the video. “Never heard of him before, but this interview is (fire emojis),” he added in another comment.

“Pierre is so great,” actor and film producer James Woods said. “Wish we had more like him in our country.”

Journalist Megyn Kelly wanted to know if the U.S. can get him in the country.=Fuzz;8850652]Yes, you can have him, please.

Did they not ask Theo or Tucker?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Locke

Conservatives, Liberals, NDP....its all the same crap.

Let everyone have all the same rights, regardless of race or sexual preference, balance the budget and make sure that our fundamental Government institutions are funded and sustainable and not operating on the brink of collapse.

Social regression like banning abortion or OMG! The Gay Agenda!?!?

I've said it once, I'll say it a million times...us Heterosexual White Dudes have not exactly been doing a bang-up job of running this place for quite some time now, maybe let the Gays or whomever have a shot? New ideas? New blood?

Maybe they might give a crap about the average citizen?

Trust me, if this place didnt have a swear-filter that would have been a profanity-laced tirade.

I'm sick of the Politics in this country...I dont know what I'd do if I were American.

Politics is like the Flame that just attracts the crappiest Moths.

The common denominator is committees. Only a saddist would volunteer for a committee.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Locke

Conservatives, Liberals, NDP....its all the same crap.

Let everyone have all the same rights, regardless of race or sexual preference, balance the budget and make sure that our fundamental Government institutions are funded and sustainable and not operating on the brink of collapse.

Social regression like banning abortion or OMG! The Gay Agenda!?!?

I've said it once, I'll say it a million times...us Heterosexual White Dudes have not exactly been doing a bang-up job of running this place for quite some time now, maybe let the Gays or whomever have a shot? New ideas? New blood?

Maybe they might give a crap about the average citizen?

Trust me, if this place didnt have a swear-filter that would have been a profanity-laced tirade.

I'm sick of the Politics in this country...I dont know what I'd do if I were American.

Politics is like the Flame that just attracts the crappiest Moths.

I was talking about the fiscal "management" of the conservatives. Or people villainizing another party for wanting to reverse their irresponsible tax cuts using arguments purposefully built to create false impressions.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

The common denominator is committees. Only a saddist would volunteer for a committee.

I’d say the common denominator is voter apathy.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

I’d say the common denominator is voter apathy.

I don't know man, have you ever had to work for a committee?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I don't know man, have you ever had to work for a committee?

Not for a political party but I can imagine they’d get some interesting characters in there.

[Geraldsh]

Deep down every person in a committee knows they are the only one with the right idea how to do what they are supposed to be doing.

[Firebot]

https://338canada.com/federal.htm

338Canada numbers are showing that Conservatives are not only gaining significant momentum, they are now blowing right past the 200 seat mark, and Liberals down to 81 predicted seats. Poilievre is poised to gain the most seats proportionally since Mulroney in 1984 at a time when we only had 3 major parties.

Of particular note is just how strongly Atlantic Canada has shifted Conservative, mainly as a result of carbon tax and feeling neglected by the party they voted for. NS now shows with Conservatives leading in 8, with Liberals at 2 and NDP at 1. Considering that Liberals had 8 seats in 2021 and all 11 in 2015, that has to be a huge wake up call, but it doesn't look like they are waking up.

And this is before the effects of Applegate show in the polls.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Firebot

https://338canada.com/federal.htm

338Canada numbers are showing that Conservatives are not only gaining significant momentum, they are now blowing right past the 200 seat mark, and Liberals down to 81 predicted seats. Poilievre is poised to gain the most seats proportionally since Mulroney in 1984 at a time when we only had 3 major parties.

Of particular note is just how strongly Atlantic Canada has shifted Conservative, mainly as a result of carbon tax and feeling neglected by the party they voted for. NS now shows with Conservatives leading in 8, with Liberals at 2 and NDP at 1. Considering that Liberals had 8 seats in 2021 and all 11 in 2015, that has to be a huge wake up call, but it doesn't look like they are waking up.

And this is before the effects of Applegate show in the polls.

If the Libs can’t buy their way out of the Atlantic, they are ####ed.

[edslunch]

Interesting that Atlantic Canada is swinging and Alberta is inexplicably advertising heavily there and in a Ontario against Trudeau. Any chance the UCP and CPC are colluding on this?

[rubecube]

So, sorry, but what exactly is PP's plan to fix the housing and opioid crisis? I'm not trolling. This is a genuine question.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by rubecube

So, sorry, but what exactly is PP's plan to fix the housing and opioid crisis? I'm not trolling. This is a genuine question.

In a quick summary on housing: Push provinces and reduce red tape to get things actually built. Financially punish for delays in housing starts with federal dollars and reward good behavior and promote construction of new homes.

Right or wrong, we do have an issue with actually building things in a timely fashion in Canada. It's not just local and provincial government's but a lack of skilled workers to do the jobs. The provinces and feds could probably work much better to get trades people certified across Canada better and incorporate foreign trades people as well.

Opioid strategy: Harm reduction and much more emphasis and actually treatment. Getting people off the street, into treatment centers where they can safely detox, live in a safe space afterwards while being monitored and mentored by former addicts and be given jobs training as well.

He is billing a lot of things as a "Common sense approach" and I do think that does have some significant appeal to a lot of people at the ground level.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Interesting that Atlantic Canada is swinging and Alberta is inexplicably advertising heavily there and in a Ontario against Trudeau. Any chance the UCP and CPC are colluding on this?

I'm sure the CPC don't mind the help but I doubt they are sitting in planning meetings together. I get the feeling Poilievre would rather keep his distance from Smith, he knows he has the votes in AB/SK, he wants to poach votes in Ontario, BC and the Atlantic.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Oh no. Won't somebody think of the poor parasites?

You mean the BC government right?
The ones who let this problem grow to these levels, wasted billions of dollars in transfer tax each year and now expect average citizens to provide the solutions??

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by rubecube

So, sorry, but what exactly is PP's plan to fix the housing and opioid crisis? I'm not trolling. This is a genuine question.

https://www.conservative.ca/building...t-bureaucracy/

• Encourage building by penalizing cities that don't meet home building quotas and giving bonus to cities that go above the quotas
  
• Remove GST on the building of any new homes with rental prices below market value
  
• List 15 percent of the federal government’s 37,000 buildings and all appropriate federal land to be turned into homes

https://www.conservative.ca/a-poilie...ioid-epidemic/

Poilievre would partner with the NDP BC government on a class action lawsuit.

“British Columbia has launched a class-action lawsuit against opioid manufacturers and distributors for the costs to Canada’s healthcare system. The federal government has not yet announced whether it will join these lawsuits. A Poilievre government would join as a plaintiff.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...purdue-pharma/

https://nationalpost.com/feature/how...-opioid-crisis

https://nationalpost.com/news/pierre...pply-activists

Target the head that accelerated and supplies the current opioid crisis, can the safer supplies program that has exacerbated the problem and made fentanyl much easier and cheaper to source, and use the proceeds to fund treatment and recovery from addictions.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Firebot

https://www.conservative.ca/building...t-bureaucracy/

• Encourage building by penalizing cities that don't meet home building quotas and giving bonus to cities that go above the quotas
  
• Remove GST on the building of any new homes with rental prices below market value
  
• List 15 percent of the federal government’s 37,000 buildings and all appropriate federal land to be turned into homes

Those are all pretty vague and I’m not sure that any of them will actually meaningfully impact affordability. The first concept is flawed in that punishing a region that is already not able to afford to meet the quotas won’t get them further ahead. The second concept seems to be nothing more than a gift to the home builders who are arguable a big part of what got us here in the first place, I mean seriously consider how they would practically enforce that. Do they make the builders pay the taxes initially and then refund it after x number of years where the homes are rented below market value, is it even cost feasible for a landlord to purchase a home/building and rent it at below market rates? The third option really can be a double edged sword depending on which services will be impacted by selling off that much property, it also doesn’t guarantee that whoever buys those properties will turn them into the types of homes that would help address the problem, you can build all the homes you want but if people don’t earn enough to pay the rent it doesn’t fix anything.

Really curious to hear your thoughts on this comment from Pierre:

“In Canada, we had a deal. You get a job; you get a house. Justin Trudeau has broken this promise. What’s worse? This wasn’t his promise to break. Politicians break promises all the time. But this wasn’t a simple promise put together by backroom political staffers in an election platform. This was Canada’s promise to her people.

When was anyone in Canada ever guaranteed a house if they had a job? People could afford houses when they earned high enough wages to pay for them, unfortunately Pierre doesn’t want working people to be earning more money he’d rather they believe that lowering their taxes will somehow get them a home when their income wouldn’t allow for it even if many of them were paying zero percent in tax.

[Fuzz]

Populists are good at saying things that sound authentic, but on examination are strings of bull####. Go ahead, Pierre, show us where this promise is written. I'll wait.

[Firebot]

The question was: Does the CPC / PP have a plan

I provided the plan based on what is on their website.

Doesn't mean I agree with everything in it, nor do I think it will improve things.

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Really curious to hear your thoughts on this comment from Pierre:

There is no such deal. It's political populist garbage.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by rubecube

So, sorry, but what exactly is PP's plan to fix the housing and opioid crisis? I'm not trolling. This is a genuine question.

No more Trudeau = fixed!

Just don’t check back in.

[CliffFletcher]

Politicians acting as though they can solve chronic problems that are likely beyond their ability to do much about? What’s this country coming to?

PP’s plan to address housing affordability doesn’t matter all that much. The Liberals under Trudeau have been in power for 8 years. At this point, they own public policy at a federal level and they’re going to take the hit for the discontent Canadian voters feel.