Favorite part is where he tells Piers to imagine a world without Hamas, then says, let's call it the Westbank (where there is no Hamas). Yet Palestinians are still dying every day. LOL!
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It really seems like the entire story is made up and doesn’t reflect what happened at all.
What amazes me is that islamic militants have fired rockets at Israel for twenty years, over and over, occasionally Israel fights back, and the world condemns Israel. Where was everyone when the rocket attacks were happening? Where does everyone think these rockets were aimed? Schools, hospitals, houses, parks, totally random.
But the moment it might be an Israeli rocket, Israel can’t be trusted, Israel is ethnic cleansing, just the usual total nonsense that is an embarrassment. Some of the posters keep repeating the same lies over and over, there will never ever be anything to change their mind.
Some real delusion and hate.
Well, those islamic militants have only been categorized as terrorists by most governments and the public in general, which is one of the most condemning things you can categorize a group as in most societies. In fact, the association with terrorism is so severe, that groups of people coming from countries with known terrorists are subject to racism and discrimination just for that association. Plus there’s the whole “Islamophobia” phenomenon which stems directly from the association with terrorism, negatively impacting thousands upon thousands of people who may share the same religion but share no connection to terrorism whatsoever.
And basically every act is heavily condemned, including the terrorist attack they literally just committed last week that sparked outrage and condemnation across the globe.
But sure, the world totally ignores islamic militants and targets Israel for the absolutely nothing they ever do wrong. Sure. Makes sense.
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"Veteran State Department official Josh Paul resigned from the agency on Tuesday over President Joe Biden’s approach to Israel-Palestine, telling HuffPost he felt he had to do so because he knew he could not push for a more humane policy within the U.S. government."
Favorite part is where he tells Piers to imagine a world without Hamas, then says, let's call it the Westbank (where there is no Hamas). Yet Palestinians are still dying every day. LOL!
Because West Bank has not signed peace with Israel either. Only Egypt and Jordan (among countries bordering Israel) did.
Well, those islamic militants have only been categorized as terrorists by most governments and the public in general, which is one of the most condemning things you can categorize a group as in most societies. In fact, the association with terrorism is so severe, that groups of people coming from countries with known terrorists are subject to racism and discrimination just for that association. Plus there’s the whole “Islamophobia” phenomenon which stems directly from the association with terrorism, negatively impacting thousands upon thousands of people who may share the same religion but share no connection to terrorism whatsoever.
And basically every act is heavily condemned, including the terrorist attack they literally just committed last week that sparked outrage and condemnation across the globe.
But sure, the world totally ignores islamic militants and targets Israel for the absolutely nothing they ever do wrong. Sure. Makes sense.
He was talking about Gaza firing rockets into Israel cities routinely, before Oct 7. Those events goes largely unnoticed by the world.
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Very happy to see this innocent wonderful kid alive and not being held hostage. Unlike, you know, those Israeli kids.
As long as this thing consists of "yeah but, other side XYZ on date 123, what about that?" we'll surely be able to keep the death and despair of all involved going for at least another 5 decades.
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Video from Al Jazeera appears to show a rocket fired from Gaza make a sudden turn moments before a deadly blast was seen at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza.
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He was talking about Gaza firing rockets into Israel cities routinely, before Oct 7. Those events goes largely unnoticed by the world.
Sorry, you’re right. Everyone labels them terrorists because of make believe. Nobody actually had any idea Hamas existed before Oct 7 and everyone was big mad at Israel as soon as they fired ONE rocket, which also happened for the first time after Oct 7.
Genius stuff. We’re on a journey of discovery here.
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The problem is that both sides have been pushed to more extreme positions because of the mutual fear and hatred, I would say that the Palestine side has always been further on that curve than the Israeli but that is because they lost everything where as Israel gained, at this point if Israel gave up land to create a 2 state solution it would still take decades for the Palestinian side to stop hating and attacking them and by giving up land Israel makes itself more venerable to attack so it is an impossible ask for them.
Any Palestinian leader who negotiates with Israel is equally seen as a traitor and a Hamas or ISIS type group will over throw them, there just isnt a solution that I can see short of one side winning utterly
The problem is that both sides have been pushed to more extreme positions because of the mutual fear and hatred, I would say that the Palestine side has always been further on that curve than the Israeli but that is because they lost everything where as Israel gained, at this point if Israel gave up land to create a 2 state solution it would still take decades for the Palestinian side to stop hating and attacking them and by giving up land Israel makes itself more venerable to attack so it is an impossible ask for them.
Any Palestinian leader who negotiates with Israel is equally seen as a traitor and a Hamas or ISIS type group will over throw them, there just isnt a solution that I can see short of one side winning utterly
No such thing as winning "utterly" unless you are suggesting genocide which I doubt you are and also wouldnt work. The more one side wins, the more extremism they will build on the other side...even if for some reason the averge persons quality of life would be better under the new arrangement. This isn't like east and west Germany. It's more like US in Afghanistan. It never stops and the second there is even a minor breach, Hamas (or equivalent under a different name) would bully their way back in.
Where is Jarred and Ivanka when you need a quick fix?
Why? Just because the US supported a group of religious-fanatic freedom fighters to fight a more secular mutual enemy who were vying for control? And when those freedom fighters got power, they conducted a terrorist attack against the very nation that gave them the ability to get in power? While being "secretly" funded by third-party Muslim countries? And then the terrorist attack resulted in a retribution war where the vocal populations were calling for the destruction and demise of the other?
The problem is that both sides have been pushed to more extreme positions because of the mutual fear and hatred, I would say that the Palestine side has always been further on that curve than the Israeli but that is because they lost everything where as Israel gained, at this point if Israel gave up land to create a 2 state solution it would still take decades for the Palestinian side to stop hating and attacking them and by giving up land Israel makes itself more venerable to attack so it is an impossible ask for them.
Any Palestinian leader who negotiates with Israel is equally seen as a traitor and a Hamas or ISIS type group will over throw them, there just isnt a solution that I can see short of one side winning utterly
Is it an impossible ask for Israel to stop taking more land?
Is it an impossible ask for Israel to stop taking more land?
Because they take more every year.
It's not impossible. But it will solve nothing. First, Israel stopped colonizing Gaza and it immediately became an Iran proxy. Second, Palestinians want to destroy Israel, and they openly declare it. While Israel's behavior is far from that of an angel, even if Israel will begin to act like an angel, Palestinians will still try to destroy it. They want to rule the whole land from the river to the sea. Even though they never actually ruled it.
It's not impossible. But it will solve nothing. First, Israel stopped colonizing Gaza and it immediately became an Iran proxy. Second, Palestinians want to destroy Israel, and they openly declare it. While Israel's behavior is far from that of an angel, even if Israel will begin to act like an angel, Palestinians will still try to destroy it. They want to rule the whole land from the river to the sea. Even though they never actually ruled it.
So Israel continuing to take more land is the proper path forward in your mind?
There are a lot of Israelis that also believe that the Palestinians should just leave and go to other countries. A lot of Israelis, especially the settlers have the same mindset as every Palestinian you are trying to paint with the same brush.
Maybe Israel should begin to act like an angel. The side with the most power can most afford to take the high road.
Sorry, you’re right. Everyone labels them terrorists because of make believe. Nobody actually had any idea Hamas existed before Oct 7 and everyone was big mad at Israel as soon as they fired ONE rocket, which also happened for the first time after Oct 7.
Genius stuff. We’re on a journey of discovery here.
I thanked your post, but I also want to designate a separate post to thank you. The more mindless rambling from Palestinian posters, the better I guess. It reads somewhere between "what the hell is he talking about" and "I guess it was some kind of attempt of sarcasm, but I'm not really sure".
