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Old 10-17-2023, 08:29 PM   #9361
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Found some basic info, and I don’t think the guy talking to PP is actually a reporter or journalist.

I guess owning somebody is using the “what do you mean by that?”, “give me an example” strategy and then interrupting the guy constantly while he’s trying to say something. That’s pretty easy to do, actually.

Do you feel owned when someone asks you to clarify or give examples?
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Old 10-17-2023, 08:33 PM   #9362
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I think I wrote this here about a year and a half ago, but I have thought for a while the best strategy the LPC has left, is to let Trudeau eat #### for 80% of this term, let the CPC throw everything at him and not do much to fight it, then call a leadership contest in ~Nov 2024 for a leader to be nominated in ~Early Jan 2025, then to force any election some time between April and Aug 2025, really whenever the new leader starts to show some momentum in the polling from not being Trudeau.

Basically the Conservatives have built too much of their support on F Trudeau flags, and might struggle to run against anyone else, and the worst thing the Libs and do is tip their hand for the Cons to prepare to pivot.

Sometimes it looks like this is what they are doing.
Is this officially called "pulling a UCP" ?
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Found some basic info, and I don’t think the guy talking to PP is actually a reporter or journalist.

I guess owning somebody is using the “what do you mean by that?”, “give me an example” strategy and then interrupting the guy constantly while he’s trying to say something. That’s pretty easy to do, actually.

Do you feel owned when someone asks you to clarify or give examples?
If the reporter wants to give a rehearsed opinion piece they better be able to back some of it up with facts. Typical the minute they’re questioned they fall to pieces in a mumbling stumbling mess.
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Found some basic info, and I don’t think the guy talking to PP is actually a reporter or journalist.

I guess owning somebody is using the “what do you mean by that?”, “give me an example” strategy and then interrupting the guy constantly while he’s trying to say something. That’s pretty easy to do, actually.

Do you feel owned when someone asks you to clarify or give examples?
Care to share this info?

I want to see your unbiased take as to why you claim this (and felt the need to try to look him up in the first place)

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Old 10-17-2023, 09:20 PM   #9365
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Why would my MP send me a survey explaining a tariff on natural health supplements and asking me if I support her fighting the LPC’s plan to ban natural health supplements when there is no ban in place?
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Why would my MP send me a survey explaining a tariff on natural health supplements and asking me if I support her fighting the LPC’s plan to ban natural health supplements when there is no ban in place?
NDP, Green Party or CPC MP?

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The Conservative and NDP health critics both say their offices were swamped over the summer with messages from constituents worried the regulatory changes could lead to increased prices and fewer choices for consumers.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/opp...ions-1.6952289

I'm assuming it's a CPC MP. The tariffs are not a CPC specific talking point, all opposition parties have asked questions and concerns about the new tariffs (as they take concerns from Canadians). Regulations will make health supplements and health supplements store non-viable and are discussed at length in this interview.

https://globalnews.ca/video/9865415/...ew-regulations

But I agree, stating it as a ban when it really is just making natural health supplements non-viable commercially is misleading, you can certainly write to the MP to state such.
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NDP, Green Party or CPC MP?



https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/opp...ions-1.6952289

I'm assuming it's a CPC MP. The tariffs are not a CPC specific talking point, all opposition parties have asked questions and concerns about the new tariffs (as they take concerns from Canadians). Regulations will make health supplements and health supplements store non-viable and are discussed at length in this interview.

https://globalnews.ca/video/9865415/...ew-regulations

But I agree, stating it as a ban when it really is just about making them non-viable commercially is misleading, you can certainly write to the MP to state such.
It’s about as misleading as labelling it as non-commercially viable when that’s speculation at best I suppose. Maybe I should take it up with my MP.
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Care to share this info?

I want to see your unbiased take as to why you claim this (and felt the need to try to look him up in the first place)

Cause he isn’t listed anywhere as a journalist. Just an editor for some podunk paper in Osoyoos.

https://www.castanet.net/reporter/Don-Urquhart

Why did I look him up? Because the interaction looked really staged. Although, I guess it’s probably legit, but the guy made a hapless attempt to question PP.
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Here's the problem with supplements. It's largely a scam with almost zero regulation or oversight. It's up to the manufacturer to inform Health Canada of there's any dangerous issues with production. There are almost no inspections of facilities. Want some proof?

Forta, a herbal male sexual enhancement product, was recalled after a third party found sildenafil (a prescription drug with potentially deadly drug interactions) in it in 2014. Two years later it was recalled again after another third party found tadalafil (a prescription drug of course). Zero repercussions and health Canada found none of this with their oversight.

Also, if no one is testing your product, why actually put in there what you've said is on the label? That's expensive when you could just be putting rice, soybean, or wheat in it instead like they found using DNA coding in this study:

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.co...41-7015-11-222

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Although we were able to authenticate almost half (48%) of the products, one-third of these also contained contaminants and or fillers not listed on the label. Product substitution occurred in 30/44 of the products tested and only 2/12 companies had products without any substitution, contamination or fillers. Some of the contaminants we found pose serious health risks to consumers.
So you're not even getting any of what you paid for in more than half of the products they tested
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I think I'd actually support a ban on 'Natural' Health supplements.

Most of that crap is snake oil.
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Is this officially called "pulling a UCP" ?
Results don't lie. They burnt the crap out of Kenny, and slid a completely moron past the Alberta electorate without near the critical look she deserved.
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Here's the problem with supplements. It's largely a scam with almost zero regulation or oversight. It's up to the manufacturer to inform Health Canada of there's any dangerous issues with production. There are almost no inspections of facilities. Want some proof?

Forta, a herbal male sexual enhancement product, was recalled after a third party found sildenafil (a prescription drug with potentially deadly drug interactions) in it in 2014. Two years later it was recalled again after another third party found tadalafil (a prescription drug of course). Zero repercussions and health Canada found none of this with their oversight.

Also, if no one is testing your product, why actually put in there what you've said is on the label? That's expensive when you could just be putting rice, soybean, or wheat in it instead like they found using DNA coding in this study:

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.co...41-7015-11-222

So you're not even getting any of what you paid for in more than half of the products they tested



Sure would like to know which companies C&G are. I have to take supplements, so ya, it's a gamble. I try to go with the big name brands.
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Results don't lie. They burnt the crap out of Kenny, and slid a completely moron past the Alberta electorate without near the critical look she deserved.
Time will tell.
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I think I wrote this here about a year and a half ago, but I have thought for a while the best strategy the LPC has left, is to let Trudeau eat #### for 80% of this term, let the CPC throw everything at him and not do much to fight it, then call a leadership contest in ~Nov 2024 for a leader to be nominated in ~Early Jan 2025, then to force any election some time between April and Aug 2025, really whenever the new leader starts to show some momentum in the polling from not being Trudeau.

Basically the Conservatives have built too much of their support on F Trudeau flags, and might struggle to run against anyone else, and the worst thing the Libs and do is tip their hand for the Cons to prepare to pivot.

Sometimes it looks like this is what they are doing.
Not enough time to claw back from the total destruction JT will have done to the liberal party and Canada to recover. people are voting with their pocket books with this election and things will be prob worse by then economically imo.
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Here's the problem with supplements. It's largely a scam with almost zero regulation or oversight. It's up to the manufacturer to inform Health Canada of there's any dangerous issues with production. There are almost no inspections of facilities. Want some proof?

Forta, a herbal male sexual enhancement product, was recalled after a third party found sildenafil (a prescription drug with potentially deadly drug interactions) in it in 2014. Two years later it was recalled again after another third party found tadalafil (a prescription drug of course). Zero repercussions and health Canada found none of this with their oversight.

Also, if no one is testing your product, why actually put in there what you've said is on the label? That's expensive when you could just be putting rice, soybean, or wheat in it instead like they found using DNA coding in this study:

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.co...41-7015-11-222



So you're not even getting any of what you paid for in more than half of the products they tested
Do health supplements include the vitamin industry for things like multi-vitamins and fish oils and such?
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Do health supplements include the vitamin industry for things like multi-vitamins and fish oils and such?
Yes. As for contamination and substitution, vitamins are relatively cheap to produce and so are fish oils, so substantially isn't really worth it. Having said that, contamination remains an issue
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Crackdown to help housing supply hopefully.

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'I just hope my investment doesn't come crashing down on me:' B.C. Airbnb owner responds to proposed crackdown

If passed, short-term rentals in B.C. can only be offered in the host’s principal residence, which includes one laneway house or basement suite on someone’s property. The new rules would impact municipalities with a population of 10,000 people or more and in smaller communities within 15 kilometres of a larger municipality.

It will effectively wipe out the business model for real estate investors and property management companies with dozens of short-term rental listings. Under the new rules, they will have to convert those units to long-term rentals or face hefty fines.

“They are operating literally as unregulated hotels and certainly we hear from the long-term residents of those … buildings their frustration around the lack of enforcement, the lack of regulation,” Alto said Monday.

Kahlon expressed little sympathy for investors who will no longer be able to rent their properties to tourists and short-term visitors.
Good. Some of these guys are effectively running unregulated hotels.
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If the reporter wants to give a rehearsed opinion piece they better be able to back some of it up with facts. Typical the minute they’re questioned they fall to pieces in a mumbling stumbling mess.
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Found some basic info, and I don’t think the guy talking to PP is actually a reporter or journalist.

I guess owning somebody is using the “what do you mean by that?”, “give me an example” strategy and then interrupting the guy constantly while he’s trying to say something. That’s pretty easy to do, actually.

Do you feel owned when someone asks you to clarify or give examples?

The reporter was asking loaded question dripping with bias and got rightfully questioned for it. Once he decided to drop the pretenses and just ask the question straight "why should people vote for you" he got a straight answer.

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Not enough time to claw back from the total destruction JT will have done to the liberal party and Canada to recover. people are voting with their pocket books with this election and things will be prob worse by then economically imo.
People don't vote with their pockets books. Look at Alberta. We voted the party of the $1.5B pipeline into power, so they could light our money on fire advertising to a bunch of people in Ottawa would couldn't give a #### about our stupid make believe problems, so that we might one day get the opportunity to remove a large portion of our retirement savings in order to increase our risk profile, temporarily slightly reduce fees before they greatly increase them, and possibly even if we are lucky enough transfer just a little bit more wealth to boomers.

Fiscal responsibility my ass.
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