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Old 10-14-2023, 08:58 PM   #1
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Penguins 5 Flames 2

- Flames the better team through 40
- Markstrom incredible in the first with the Flames shorthanded
- Coronato scores but is -4
- Flames implode in the third giving up 5 goals
- Lindholm was great
- Lindholm was awesome
- Lindholm was elite
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Old 10-14-2023, 09:00 PM   #2
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penguins 5 flames 2

- flames the better team through 40
- markstrom incredible in the first with the flames shorthanded
- coronato scores but is -4
- flames implode in the third giving up 5 goals
- lindholm was great
- lindholm was awesome
- lindholm was elite
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Dino will still find something wrong with it.
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Bingo pumping Lindy’s trade value?

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Looking at the Pens and Crosby/Malkin just made me remember how much luck is involved in the NHL and most winning teams just were bad at the right time.

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Looking at the Pens and Crosby/Malkin just made me remember how much luck is involved in the NHL and most winning teams just were bad at the right time.
It's why I want the Flames to try though.

Get it right and it can deliver 1-2 decades of stability.

Don't do it, and all you get is instability. There is some luck involved, but if you plan to do it - you at least give yourself a real shot. The last two big ones went to teams who planned it. Toronto got Matthews, Chicago got Bedard.
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Old 10-15-2023, 04:57 AM   #7
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At least the Oilers lost…again.
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Old 10-15-2023, 07:35 AM   #8
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Thanks for the great game summary D’Arcy!

Coronato and Joey Mullen are a great comparison and IF he can come anywhere close to Mullen’s career numbers we would be over the moon as Flames fans.

The number one standout thought for me is IF the kid is pinned in his own end, he will not get any opportunities to contribute offensively.

Markstrom has looked solid in the first 2 regular season games, BUT the team has to be ready to start the 3rd period on the road.

Huska has his hands full with this team in putting in a 60 minute effort. Lots of complaints just last season that IF the Flames would have played 60 minutes like they played the middle 20, this is a win, BUT that obviously didn’t happen.

Leads right into that saying… If “if’s” and “but’s” were candy and nuts we would all have a wonderful Christmas!

Christmas break will tell us all about where this team is headed.
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I'd have to watch the second again -- I thought the Flames settled down, but they didn't seem to test Pittsburgh's backup much despite carrying the play. By the time the Pens started scoring in bunches in the the third, it seemed to make up for the play of Markstrom in the first when the Pens could have been up 3-0. You watch a lot more than I do, so I take your word for the Flames just missing a 3 goal period of their own in the second.

Having your goalie save your back because you spend 10 (maybe it was 8) of the first 40 minutes in the box doesn't strike me as a perfect road game that unraveled in the third, but you do on about the the unraveling in the third so I suppose I'm quibbling.
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Old 10-15-2023, 10:16 AM   #10
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I'd have to watch the second again -- I thought the Flames settled down, but they didn't seem to test Pittsburgh's backup much despite carrying the play. By the time the Pens started scoring in bunches in the the third, it seemed to make up for the play of Markstrom in the first when the Pens could have been up 3-0. You watch a lot more than I do, so I take your word for the Flames just missing a 3 goal period of their own in the second.

Having your goalie save your back because you spend 10 (maybe it was 8) of the first 40 minutes in the box doesn't strike me as a perfect road game that unraveled in the third, but you do on about the the unraveling in the third so I suppose I'm quibbling.
I see hockey like football ... offence, defense and special teams (those broken further).

A team can have a great road game five on five and get let down by special teams or in this case discipline bailed out by special teams.

Third period starts and Mangiapane makes a mistake and it's in their net. They panic a bit and it's 2-1.
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When the Penguins top players ramped up their play in the third the Flames were lacking a game breaking presence that could help them keep up. They really lack a player that can influence a game.

The biggest problem I saw, and I think it showed on almost every goal against, was that they were making mistakes and turning pucks over within 2-3 feet of the blue lines. Turn over at the penguins blue line on a line change and goal.
Bad pass from Hanifin that is kept in at the blue line and goal.
Crossing the top of their zone with the puck and not able to get it that last foot over the blue line, it stays in the zone and goal.
The flames just never looked to be strong enough or determined enough to win the battles at the blue line.

At one point the Penguins only had 12 shots but it seemed that Markstrom as having to keep the Flames in the game. This new zone system looks like it is giving up way more high danger chances than it should. Far too many of the opposition players are left wide open for scoring chances.
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When the Penguins top players ramped up their play in the third the Flames were lacking a game breaking presence that could help them keep up. They really lack a player that can influence a game.

The biggest problem I saw, and I think it showed on almost every goal against, was that they were making mistakes and turning pucks over within 2-3 feet of the blue lines. Turn over at the penguins blue line on a line change and goal.
Bad pass from Hanifin that is kept in at the blue line and goal.
Crossing the top of their zone with the puck and not able to get it that last foot over the blue line, it stays in the zone and goal.
The flames just never looked to be strong enough or determined enough to win the battles at the blue line.

At one point the Penguins only had 12 shots but it seemed that Markstrom as having to keep the Flames in the game. This new zone system looks like it is giving up way more high danger chances than it should. Far too many of the opposition players are left wide open for scoring chances.
Against Winnipeg for sure.

But last night five on five they only gave up 7 high danger chances all night. The penalty kill got shredded in the first period, but five on five only 7, and 4 of those in the third.
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For the first time as a unit, I really liked the Sharangovich line.
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Old 10-15-2023, 03:04 PM   #14
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Thank you Bingo for doing these again this season. I watched the game and obviously didn’t like the 3rd but in the PGT the sentiment was very gloomy despite me thinking the whole game wasn’t that bad for the Flames. You explaining the game through stats confirmed what I felt but could not articulate last night and I’m happy there’s some balance and objectivity in the fan debates.
Through 2 games the guys carrying the mail early for the Flames in my opinion are Markstrom, Lindholm, Ruzicka, the 4th line, and I really like the Weegar - Zadorov pairing. Hopefully the Flames can earn a regulation win in Washington on solid play/stats and cook up some confidence on the offence.
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Flames only allowed 2 HD chances through 2 periods and had a very high possession rate. (5 on 5)

It all turned on a couple avoidable mistakes in the 3rd

Lindholm wasn't as good as game one where he scored the winner and dominated in the circle although going up against Sid is a tall task. Take a lesson and move on.
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Missed the first two games due to travel overseas. I might just skip watching this season and read these threads instead. Between gambling ads and the soulless team Flames have become, I’m thinking that’s the best option.
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Old 10-15-2023, 05:26 PM   #17
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Missed the first two games due to travel overseas. I might just skip watching this season and read these threads instead. Between gambling ads and the soulless team Flames have become, I’m thinking that’s the best option.
I would watch a few games yourself and not go by CP opinion

Game one had a lot of soul IMO
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The team has a lot of soul.
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