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Old 10-12-2023, 04:39 PM   #1101
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Will a Flames player now defy his Captain?
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Old 10-12-2023, 04:42 PM   #1102
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I’d appeal a fine to an arbitrator and simply show them the rule book. No memo or tweet can supersede that.
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Old 10-13-2023, 08:32 AM   #1103
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I guess I just don't get the inclination to critique (or dare I say nit-pick) allies at all. It seems to be common to most social justice issues - and while it definitely feels like a bit of a trivial thing to grumble about from the "just trying to be a good cis-white-guy" bleachers - I think it really serves to suppress constructive conversation.

It can certainly be obnoxious to hear newly 'enlightened' old white guys proselytize with what seems like an undercurrent of gratitude seeking...but I think it's just part of the journey.
A very far left wing person I know was very aware of this tendency and called it "Granholier than Thou".

She pointed out that many far left people, who are often stereotyped as granola eating, neo-Hippies, do like to set up all sorts of purity tests and take a weird joy in calling out others who don't pass these tests rather than appreciating that the person they're excluding (irony!) is actually (trying to be) supportive of their position but may not always know all the codewords and acceptable actions.

I'm reminded of a cultural sensitivity workshop I attended decades ago and having it stressed that we all *must* use the word Indigenous instead of other outdated terms like "Native" or "Indian" or some of the worse ones.

I happened to end up giving a ride back to my office to an Indigenous Elder who was on our board of directors at the time and as we talked about the workshop, she said "You know, I don't mind the word 'Indian". It's what I grew up with, it's what I know, it's what I'm used to. I'm really more concerned about people's actions than their words."

That made a lot of sense and stayed with me - there is no single way to be supportive and the most important thing is to try your best.

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Old 10-13-2023, 08:44 AM   #1104
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Old 10-13-2023, 01:20 PM   #1105
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I ordered 4 rolls of Pride tape earlier this week and they just showed up. So if you are considering any order it should arrive quickly.
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Old 10-14-2023, 01:40 AM   #1106
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Old 10-14-2023, 07:36 AM   #1107
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Just out of curiosity, any studies on what percentage of elite female hockey players would identify as lgtbq+ ? Maybe like 40%? Womens hockey must be one of the most lgtbq friendly sports in the world, especially at the higher levels
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Old 10-14-2023, 10:38 AM   #1108
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good for them to make such a firm, and critical statement
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Old 10-14-2023, 01:43 PM   #1109
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Imaginary sky daddies are telling players not to wear a pride jersey for warmup? lol why did he mention Kadri? is there something we don't know about going on?
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Old 10-14-2023, 01:45 PM   #1110
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Just out of curiosity, any studies on what percentage of elite female hockey players would identify as lgtbq+ ? Maybe like 40%? Womens hockey must be one of the most lgtbq friendly sports in the world, especially at the higher levels
....why?
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Old 10-14-2023, 01:45 PM   #1111
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Imaginary sky daddies are telling players not to wear a pride jersey for warmup? lol why did he mention Kadri? is there something we don't know about going on?
Reimer name dropping Kadri was last season. The new news that someone posted is that a memo went out banning pride tape in warmups.
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Old 10-14-2023, 03:49 PM   #1112
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Yeah, I knew Burkie would come through!!

Fining players for Pride tape...F that noise.
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I now think the edict will be openly defied, which is the only appropriate response. Work-arounds such as giving kids rainbow sticks, etc. is not a strong enough message. Pride is a protest.
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It's gonna happen, just who will be first?

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I think that the NHL's quickest defense against this would be that 'any color' is not 'many colors', and that 'color' is not plural, so having more than one color at a time is not within the rules. I don't think that quoting this rule is the slam dunk some folks think.
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Old 10-14-2023, 06:10 PM   #1117
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I think that the NHL's quickest defense against this would be that 'any color' is not 'many colors', and that 'color' is not plural, so having more than one color at a time is not within the rules. I don't think that quoting this rule is the slam dunk some folks think.
Someone should tell Panarin and Pastrnak then. They both use white and black tape. And there’s no rule about how many colors your actual stick can be.
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I think that the NHL's quickest defense against this would be that 'any color' is not 'many colors', and that 'color' is not plural, so having more than one color at a time is not within the rules. I don't think that quoting this rule is the slam dunk some folks think.
How is that a quick defense when many players use black and white combos?
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Old 10-14-2023, 06:41 PM   #1120
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How is that a quick defense when many players use black and white combos?
Looked like most of the sticks I see are black or white, not both. Though it's nothing I've really cared to look closely at. If both is the most common case, then the NHL could say that the rule is intended to be just one color and start enforcing it. I doubt that they will. This is already more of a mess than they like, I bet.
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