10-13-2023, 04:16 PM
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#1341
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
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Originally Posted by Spurs
I live in the real world where as the answer to the question asked if you would feel safe going out with someone wearing a Israeli Hockey jersey is of course.
I never said Calgary was perfect, never said kids at school aren't saying dumb things. But if you think that going out with someone who has something clearly identifying them as Jewish puts you or them in some state of threat, I can say for a fact it isn't me living under a rock.
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You are wrong. Jews are the largest target of hate crimes in Canada. I have seen it, felt it and lived it. As have my children. It is a serious problem. The latest protests were disgusting and help prove the point.
My son has been attacked for being Jewish in elementary school and junior high repeatedly by Muslim students. If he isn't being attacked, he isn't welcome in their homes. His school does nothing about it.
Jewish students in universities across north America are commonly bombarded by hatred.
Being a visible Jew is putting a target on you. If you didn't know, time to read and start understanding.
The best measure of this is that Jewish centers, synagogues and Jewish public gatherings require security/police that cost money (full time support), and wouldn't be done if not required. Just recently we didn't just have police, we had the military.
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10-13-2023, 04:21 PM
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#1342
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
You are wrong. Jews are the largest target of hate crimes in Canada. I have seen it, felt it and lived it. As have my children. It is a serious problem. The latest protests were disgusting and help prove the point.
My son has been attacked for being Jewish in elementary school and junior high repeatedly by Muslim students. If he isn't being attacked, he isn't welcome in their homes. His school does nothing about it.
Jewish students in universities across north America are commonly bombarded by hatred.
Being a visible Jew is putting a target on you. If you didn't know, time to read and start understanding.
The best measure of this is that Jewish centers, synagogues and Jewish public gatherings require security/police that cost money (full time support), and wouldn't be done if not required. Just recently we didn't just have police, we had the military.
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So much of this is irrelevant to the question that was asked.
So no I am not wrong there would be no reason to not feel safe.
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10-13-2023, 04:28 PM
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#1343
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
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"oh no, sorry for you son, that is terrible"
"oh for sure, I understand it exists, but wouldn't I be safe?"
"I didn't realize they required security, that is so sad"
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10-13-2023, 04:29 PM
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#1344
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs
So much of this is irrelevant to the question that was asked.
So no I am not wrong there would be no reason to not feel safe.
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That's what you got out of their post?
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10-13-2023, 04:29 PM
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#1345
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
That's what you got out of their post?
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In response to my post yes.
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10-13-2023, 04:36 PM
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#1346
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: The Honkistani Underground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Just recently..., we had the military.
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Oh? Where was this?
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10-13-2023, 04:37 PM
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#1347
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
That's what you got out of their post?
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Thank you! My kids were home today. My son was defending himself for much of the week from accusations of everything Hamas did, but in fact, Israel did it all. Kids don't know better, but some of the things my son tells me for sure came from parents.
One boy who just won't stop lives nearby. He invites everyone over, and my son would wait on the street, he isn't allowed in their house.
Another boy is nice to my son, but my son can't visit his house either, although their son comes over in secret. We of course treat him well. We deal with racism all the time. Feels like it doesn't count or something when it is against jews or something?
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10-13-2023, 04:39 PM
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Baron von Kriterium
Oh? Where was this?
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I don't know if I am privy to say so I left that out. Police and military were present, although military was not in view.
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10-13-2023, 04:41 PM
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#1349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
People who have a different Sky Daddy can't be friends.
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well I hate to be even more depressing but it's the same ####ing sky daddy, they are killing each other over which bitch the same sky daddy chose to explain the sky daddys thoughts
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10-13-2023, 04:41 PM
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Franchise Player
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Credit where credit is due to Global for their balanced take on tonight's edition of the National and actually providing a perspective from local citizens in Gaza and the impacts of the ongoing attacks at civilian Palestinians. They also showed the UN calling Israel's 24-hr evacuation request out as what it is - an "impossible" and insincere request.
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10-13-2023, 04:43 PM
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Scoring Winger
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By the way, for people who think Gaza is about Hamas here is what some Israeli government officials were saying earlier this year,
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.time...ngagement/amp/
"A far-right minister in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government said that a law repealing legislation that ordered the evacuation of four West Bank settlements was a step on the way to re-occupying and resettling the Gaza Strip, a move that she acknowledged would cause “many casualties.”
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10-13-2023, 04:44 PM
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
So when talking about retribution on civilians who re-elect a government of a country which lied to go to war and killed a million people there are a whole host of factors which we should consider, but a poor third world people who have seen occupation and their land taken away should immediately be punished. Got it. And what would be the "adequate" response for civilians in Israel who elected multiple governments who said they would expand settlements? Why are some civilians considered more valuable than others? The rules of war and human rights rules should apply to all, not just to who you think is right or feel a connection to.
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I don't even know what we're arguing about really.
Firstly, Hamas didn't lie to anybody. They made it very clear they wanted to kill all the Israelis. In the past when they've killed Israeli civilians, they threw parties.
Secondly, this isn't about retribution on innocents. Israel is attacking Hamas. Innocents are likely going to die when attacking Hamas. Hamas has purposely put their own civilians in harm's way.
You can debate maybe Israel should be taking more extreme measures to protect Palestinian civilians. I'd probably agree with you on some of that.
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10-13-2023, 04:45 PM
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#1353
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vernon, BC
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PBS has been good too, Leila Molana-allen has done some great reporting
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10-13-2023, 04:47 PM
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#1354
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
I don't know if I am privy to say so I left that out. Police and military were present, although military was not in view.
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I say this without intent to call you a liar but, if you're going to say it was there you can't then turn around and not say where. It's an unprovable argument and doesn't help or contribute to this.
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10-13-2023, 05:03 PM
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
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Is the question was that police being there? A congregation of Jews required police to help be safe. is that not enough? That is standard nowadays. Didn't realize that with all the claims in this thread, that specific detail required citations.
The question of military being there is another thing. There were several people in attendance that maybe increased the security detail. There were no tanks or anything like that, but attendees were informed military and police were there to keep people safe. I am not going to say where since again, I don't know if that is information I can just release like that. I can certainly say nothing more.
Today there was a serious increase in police presence around locations with lots of Jews.
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10-13-2023, 05:03 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by blankall
I don't even know what we're arguing about really.
Firstly, Hamas didn't lie to anybody. They made it very clear they wanted to kill all the Israelis. In the past when they've killed Israeli civilians, they threw parties.
Secondly, this isn't about retribution on innocents. Israel is attacking Hamas. Innocents are likely going to die when attacking Hamas. Hamas has purposely put their own civilians in harm's way.
You can debate maybe Israel should be taking more extreme measures to protect Palestinian civilians. I'd probably agree with you on some of that.
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Yes, blocking food and water into Gaza and telling hospitals that they have two hours to evacuate is definitely not retribution on civilians
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10-13-2023, 05:15 PM
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#1359
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
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This is just terrible but not surprising given their history.
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10-13-2023, 05:29 PM
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#1360
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evil of fart
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Thank you! My kids were home today. My son was defending himself for much of the week from accusations of everything Hamas did, but in fact, Israel did it all. Kids don't know better, but some of the things my son tells me for sure came from parents.
One boy who just won't stop lives nearby. He invites everyone over, and my son would wait on the street, he isn't allowed in their house.
Another boy is nice to my son, but my son can't visit his house either, although their son comes over in secret. We of course treat him well. We deal with racism all the time. Feels like it doesn't count or something when it is against jews or something?
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Are you in Calgary? That's nucking futs, dude. I had no idea.
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