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Pointman · 10-09-2023, 04:35 AM

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So again your talking about a culture..... a way to live based on beliefs....

Your example only proves my point. He's Algerian.. that's his ethnicity. Yes he does know the Arabic language but his main language is berber... so no he is not Arab. Not his native language....

Good try tho .

I talked about blood and genes. Regarding Zidane, I let Zidane himself clarify it:

https://www.esquireme.com/culture/zinedine-zidane

I have an affinity with the Arabic world. I have it in my blood, via my parents. I’m very proud of being French, but also very proud of having these roots and this diversity.

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 04:48 AM

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Ukraine was under Moscow/Russian rule until 1991. I don't even need to study history for that, as I was already alive. I sure am anti Kremlin, I actually left the country.

If anything, there are much more similarities between Putin and Arabs than Putin and Israel. They both pick a convenient point in history and claim that the lands they lived on at that point - not earlier or later - should be theirs. Why you want to come back to pre-WW1 state? Why not go further? How about American settlers leaving north America? Angles and Saxons leaving England? So many nations live on the land that was not originally theirs. Ironically, Jews actually live in their historic homeland.

Ukraine was under Moscow control during the ussr because the like Isreal stole it back mhmm.. let's see ####.. the same time Isreal became a thing 1922..... so it seems Russia took controle of Ukraine again around the same time isreal stated taking back the palistine controlled area...

But Russia has nothing in common with Isreal. Only started land grabbing at the same point in history.

Actually a fun fact. It the early years of Isreals development the ussr wanted a bilateral agreement between the Arab population. They then switched positions during the earlier aforementioned 1944 to 1948 Jewish insurgency against the British government. The Russian government back them during that time trying to bribe them as the ussr thought this would lead to Isreal being on there side . It didn't work. Thw Russians in that period thought by backing Isreal ot would stop the Arab nations of Jordan ,Egypt and Iraq.
At that time Britian and America banned imports to Isreal . The Russians used czeckoslavakia to smuggle them in.

The ultimate downfall was Russia refused Jewiah emigration into Isreal . So Isreal sided with the USA instead.

So yes , in short Russian is alot like Isreal....they only started funding Arab countries because they pissed off isreal. So they started funding Arab countries because they betrayed isreal.....

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 04:49 AM

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Embarrassing? It was a fun quote from Wikipedia, clearly posted as a joke, and because I live right on mount Carmel.

Just take the l. Time for sleep

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ukraine was under Moscow control during the ussr because the like Isreal stole it back mhmm.. let's see ####.. the same time Isreal became a thing 1922..... so it seems Russia took controle of Ukraine again around the same time isreal stated taking back the palistine controlled area...

But Russia has nothing in common with Isreal. Only started land grabbing at the same point in history.

Actually a fun fact. It the early years of Isreals development the ussr wanted a bilateral agreement between the Arab population. They then switched positions during the earlier aforementioned 1944 to 1948 Jewish insurgency against the British government. The Russian government back them during that time trying to bribe them as the ussr thought this would lead to Isreal being on there side . It didn't work. Thw Russians in that period thought by backing Isreal ot would stop the Arab nations of Jordan ,Egypt and Iraq.
At that time Britian and America banned imports to Isreal . The Russians used czeckoslavakia to smuggle them in.

The ultimate downfall was Russia refused Jewiah emigration into Isreal . So Isreal sided with the USA instead.

So yes , in short Russian is alot like Isreal....

Russia started landgrabbing. At middle age. Not in 1922. But again, if your point is that Israel is like Russia because they grab lands, you might as well add English, Spanish and actually Arabic people into that category. Pretty much every nation was grabbing land at some point of their history. Similarity between Russia and Palestine is that they are still trying it in modern times and they are trying to justify it by saying that the land was "theirs" at certain, arbitrary picked, point in history.

Except that Palestinians never ever owned the Palestine. At best, they merely lived there, as a part of another state. Even West Bank was taken by Israel from Jordan, who illegally occupied it, rather than from Palestinian. So, if Palestinians point is that they used to live in Palestine, but not rule it, they actually can get it. Just live in Israel, they are allowed to.

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:00 AM

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Just take the l. Time for sleep

Huh? You think posting quotes from Wikipedia in now an automatic loss? You don't even understand that it's middle of the day in Israel. This shows your mindset though. You are trying to win an argument about Gaza on Flames message board. Instead of trying to provide some facts and legit points.

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointman

I talked about blood and genes. Regarding Zidane, I let Zidane himself clarify it:

https://www.esquireme.com/culture/zinedine-zidane

I have an affinity with the Arabic world. I have it in my blood, via my parents. I’m very proud of being French, but also very proud of having these roots and this diversity.

An esquire tell all.... proves everything.

His main language is berber still . Yes grew up in the Aribic world but not his native language.

To be Arab that would need to be his first language.
He is Algerian. That's his ethnicity .

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointman

Huh? You think posting quotes from Wikipedia in now an automatic loss? You don't even understand that it's middle of the day in Israel. This shows your mindset though. You are trying to win an argument about Gaza on Flames message board. Instead of trying to provide some facts and legit points.

Just posting qoutes from Wikipedia with out saying sources is. A loss . Your literally copying and pasting things from a site with out saying you are.

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 05:07 AM

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Huh? You think posting quotes from Wikipedia in now an automatic loss? You don't even understand that it's middle of the day in Israel. This shows your mindset though. You are trying to win an argument about Gaza on Flames message board. Instead of trying to provide some facts and legit points.

Well your on a western Canadian forum, states your in Moscow....yet its my mindset.....
Are you not trying to do the same ? I provided historical facts . I'm confused ��

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:09 AM

Actually you helped to formulate the concise rebuttal to Palestinians claims on the area.

You used to rule Palestine? No, you never were.
You used to live in Palestine under somebody's else rule? You still can.

What's the problem?

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:10 AM

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Just posting qoutes from Wikipedia with out saying sources is. A loss . Your literally copying and pasting things from a site with out saying you are.

It was so obviously from Wikipedia, that I never bothered. The article itself is of no relevance to the discussion, except for the part I quoted, so no point of posting the link. I post links either as proofs for facts, or as additional reading that could help those willing to educate themselves on the matter. This one was neither. If you revisit my post, it was clearly a quote, evident by the word "apparently" and colon mark.

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 05:11 AM

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Actually you helped to formulate the concise rebuttal to Palestinians claims on the area.

You used to rule Palestine? No, you never were.
You used to live in Palestine under somebody's else rule? You still can.

What's the problem?

Okay Boomer. You got me

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:12 AM

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An esquire tell all.... proves everything.

His main language is berber still . Yes grew up in the Aribic world but not his native language.

To be Arab that would need to be his first language.
He is Algerian. That's his ethnicity .

Language has nothing to do with ethnicity. For many Jews their first language was Russian, German or Polish. They are still ethnic Jews.

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 05:14 AM

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Language has nothing to do with ethnicity. For many Jews their first language was Russian, German or Polish. They are still ethnic Jews.

No #### . I've said that all along. Your proving me right Jews are historically of Caucasian ethnicity....

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:15 AM

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Well your on a western Canadian forum, states your in Moscow....yet its my mindset.....
Are you not trying to do the same ? I provided historical facts . I'm confused ��

I tried to change location, but turned out I need to put my Facebook page for that. For about 20 years I was posting here from Moscow, before moving to Israel.

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:16 AM

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No #### . I've said that all along. Your proving me right Jews are historically of Caucasian ethnicity....

You mean of Caucasian race? As there are Mongolian, Caucasian and Africans? It's races, not ethnicity, but yes, Jews are of Caucasian race.

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 05:17 AM

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I tried to change location, but turned out I need to put my Facebook page for that. For about 20 years I was posting here from Moscow, before moving to Israel.

I don't believe you. I didn't have to do that lol

combustiblefuel · 10-09-2023, 05:19 AM

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You mean of Caucasian race? As there are Mongolian, Caucasian and Africans? It's races, not ethnicity, but yes, Jews are of Caucasian race.

This I'll concede on because I miss spoke.
Your examples would make them primarily Russian,German or Polish ethnicity. But yes as you agreed mainly white.

WCW Nitro · 10-09-2023, 05:27 AM

For the "Israel just defends itself against terrorists" people.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6990773

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant on Monday ordered a "complete siege" on Gaza, saying authorities would cut electricity and block the entry of food and fuel

At the same time, Infrastructure Minister Israel Katz said he has ordered an immediate cutoff of Israel's water supplies to Hamas-run Gaza

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:28 AM

By the way, since I live in Israel and travelled around country, I can tell you there's still a lot of empty lands. Even in central area. Good lands, that are still not developed.

Pointman · 10-09-2023, 05:31 AM

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I don't believe you. I didn't have to do that lol

Correct, it is no longer the case. I updated my location now.