Flames reduce camp roster to 27

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I sympathize for Kylington and his issues as I have been continuing to deal with mental health issues my whole life. (Asbergers) but, It's time to move on and cut him out if he can't be ready to play by the middle or near the end of November if I'm the Flames. It's becoming very obvious this just isn't his life's path if he took a season and a half off and can't get his #### together.

I'm pulling for him but if within that time line he can't organize himself it's better for him and the organization to part ways. Maybe pro hockey isn't in the cards for him and he ends up running a multi billion company or a Nation staple mom and pop shop.

Ignoring how callous your take is, it's also very short-sighted from an asset management perspective. He's not hurting the organization by being LTIR eligible. It's also crazy to think how good Kylington might be once he's in the right mental and emotional headspace

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Ignoring how callous your take is, it's also very short-sighted from an asset management perspective. He's not hurting the organization by being LTIR eligible. It's also crazy to think how good Kylington might be once he's in the right mental and emotional headspace

Absolutely he is not hurting the team on ltir but the question now is how long do the team wait? When he is a ufa at the end of the season would you renew his contract and keep waiting as he could be good?

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

He's a UFA this summer so if the Flames or any other team want to give him a chance they can. Though if he doesn't play again this year he'll be looking at a league min one year deal I'm sure.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Missed the biggest change:
Out: Sutter

Friedman was in Calgary last week and talked about the huge contrast in the room this year vs. last season. Consider yourself lucky if you've never worked in an environment where almost everyone hated the boss to the point where people are doing the bare minimum for as little time as possible.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by UKflames

Absolutely he is not hurting the team on ltir but the question now is how long do the team wait? When he is a ufa at the end of the season would you renew his contract and keep waiting as he could be good?

If he misses the entire year, and tries to comeback in the offseason it will be on a PTO.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by browna

Well I had also heard that not going on LTIR also meant that some of the benefits and league programs would be available uninterrupted…and that going in LTIR meant that his issues for being on LTIR and updates while on IRwould have the potential to be more publicly disclosed at the time or after. So, out of respect for those things, the Flames didn’t use LTIR.

Not sure if that’s true or not, just what I heard from a trusted source over the summer.

Don't trust your trusted source on this one.

[Finger Cookin]

Lots of the roster depth this year is in the 25-27 age range, some younger. So not a rebuild with barely professional aged players, yet this feels like a younger, bigger team than last year. Not sure how good we'll be, but it's a decent roster refresh with big pieces potentially hitting the market sometime this season.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Lots of the roster depth this year is in the 25-27 age range, some younger. So not a rebuild with barely professional aged players, yet this feels like a younger, bigger team than last year. Not sure how good we'll be, but it's a decent roster refresh with big pieces potentially hitting the market sometime this season.

The team definitely feels younger. It would feel even younger when Pelts heals up. Even more so if one of Kyllington/Gilbert/Solovyov gets the #6D spot.

It doesn't feel bigger. All of Lucic, Ritchie, and Stone were big boys; Toff and Lewis were average. That's one aspect that raised many questions in the offseason: "Is the team tough/big enough?".

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Ignoring how callous your take is, it's also very short-sighted from an asset management perspective. He's not hurting the organization by being LTIR eligible. It's also crazy to think how good Kylington might be once he's in the right mental and emotional headspace

And even if he doesn't play, being a decent org is good when you go to sign or extend other players. Aside from being the right thing to do.

[Finger Cookin]

I had already forgotten Lucic, whoops. OK, maybe not bigger. Point conceded.

[Jiri Hrdina]

The Kylington situation reminds me a little of Paul Ranger.

[kyuss275]

Missing Kylington for long absence or potentially year really hurts. Flames are not deep on D . As of now flames need to trade for bottom pairing dman. I also don’t see how they trade Hanifin if they are in a playoff spot near deadline

[flambers]

Even if Kylington came back, it would take awhile before he was in game shape.

Weeks for sure, probably over a month.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by flambers

Even if Kylington came back, it would take awhile before he was in game shape.

Weeks for sure, probably over a month.

Training camp is only 3 weeks - I'm sure Kylington could get up to speed in that time. It would be good sign for both him and the Flames if he's able to play this season but I don't have my hopes up.

[getbak]

He'll likely go to the AHL on a conditioning stint when he is ready to play.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Missed the biggest change:
Out: Sutter

Its hard to argue that Sutter wasn't purposely sabotaging the season to make the ultimate point that its his way or the highway

some of the decisions were just too baffling to think otherwise

[dino7c]

Its not like Kylington was Bobby Orr...he had his first decent season the year before last when everything on the team was humming along.

I'd like to see him back but the Flames need to move on...if he is able to play he can start in the AHL and he better be the best guy there, then we can talk about a call up. Fair or not the Flames can't count on him.

[cannon7]

Klapka can very much fill a "Lucic Lite" role. Has had a solid camp, but still likely 13th forward when things shake out.

I can only assume Schwindt is a placeholder and will be sent down as he is waiver exempt. Could also be the NHL coaching staff taking more time with him since it is clear he has a ways to go development wise.

I don't think Hunt has been as bad as some on here think. He's had some good games and plays a fourth line style well. But when you're battling for a roster spot you don't want to be remembered for your mistakes. Think he will go down to the wire. Tough call here, IMO.

On the blueline Solovyov is the obvious surprise out of camp. Looks really really close. Think he still gets sent down to start the season. But the pressure will be on for Gilbert and Oesterle. Gilbert has earned his spot given his solid play last season. Oesterle will need to start the season strong. Will not be surprised if Solovyov secures a NHL roster spot by midd season.

Am hoping the Flames' new pro scouts find something good on waivers to shore up the fourth line. But am not holding my breath.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Kylington situation reminds me a little of Paul Ranger.

That would be unfortunate at least as far as play goes - Ranger was never the same after such a long layoff.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its not like Kylington was Bobby Orr...he had his first decent season the year before last when everything on the team was humming along.

I'd like to see him back but the Flames need to move on...if he is able to play he can start in the AHL and he better be the best guy there, then we can talk about a call up. Fair or not the Flames can't count on him.

I don’t like this in any way. His ability to play at the NHL level is not in question

I can not imagine any circumstance in which “#### you, go prove yourself in the minors” is an approach the organization would take here