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The Bedard effect
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The Blackhawks told ESPN this week that they have nearly doubled both their full season-ticket packages and their partial season-ticket packages for the 2023-24 season. They are projecting a 10% overall increase in tickets sold for this season, including at least five sellouts.
The Blackhawks averaged 17,167 tickets distributed for 41 home games last season.
Chicago is expecting more than a 17% increase in tickets sold and 26% higher revenue growth over their initial projections for the 2023-24 season.
Kid has been a lot of fun to watch in pre-season already. I’m excited just by him joining the league.
Chicago planned to give themselves an opportunity to draft Bedard, and it worked. They tried to stay relevant with players who had earned that right through 3 Stanley cups - which I can understand. You win three cups you can do whatever you want.then when that fizzled out, they got to work and replaced their hall of fame talent with the next one. You have to give yourself a chance.
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I used to hate when other teams got generational talent. But now as I get older, I'm just happy there are these kind of players that get fans excited again and create new opportunities in different markets. Also helps other teams be better in terms of performance, drafting, and competitive nature. And fans of other teams pay to see players like this too.
The league as a whole gets better with this effect.
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I used to hate when other teams got generational talent. But now as I get older, I'm just happy there are these kind of players that get fans excited again and create new opportunities in different markets. Also helps other teams be better in terms of performance, drafting, and competitive nature. And fans of other teams pay to see players like this too.
The league as a whole gets better with this effect.
In the NHL too, it's not a guarantee of anything. The last real "generational" talent was McDavid and Edmonton hasn't even made a final yet. Before that arguably was Crosby and Ovechkin -- Pittsburgh and Washington did see a lot of success in their careers including championships, but it's not like they were totally unstoppable teams and winning every single year. Washington in particular just won once and had a lot of adversity getting there.
You're arguing something different. It's not a guarantee of a Stanley Cup win, of course. But it is a guarantee of putting butts in seats, sell tickets and merchandise, and creates excitement to see generational talent play, both in the home market and in away games.
Guys like Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby and McDavid put butts in seats, even if people don't like the teams they play for.
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In the NHL too, it's not a guarantee of anything. The last real "generational" talent was McDavid and Edmonton hasn't even made a final yet. Before that arguably was Crosby and Ovechkin -- Pittsburgh and Washington did see a lot of success in their careers including championships, but it's not like they were totally unstoppable teams and winning every single year. Washington in particular just won once and had a lot of adversity getting there.
There are no guarantees of anything in sports.
Although, citing Edmonton's incompetence as a reason why something doesn't work is pretty low fruit. Worst run organization in the league for the first 5'ish years of McDavid's career.
There is no unstoppable teams that win every single year in this sport. However to find the consistent success that Pittsbrugh and Washington saw for a decade...well, that's on the back of those players, and that's the pinnacle of success in this sport.
The general conversation though is that Bedard is just one hell of a talent and is going to be incredibly entertaining to watch for the next two decades. I'd love to see a talent of that level as a Flame, because even if we were as incompetent as Edmonton - we'd still have a player of that talent to watch every night.
You're arguing something different. It's not a guarantee of a Stanley Cup win, of course. But it is a guarantee of putting butts in seats, sell tickets and merchandise, and creates excitement to see generational talent play, both in the home market and in away games.
Guys like Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby and McDavid put butts in seats, even if people don't like the teams they play for.
I think you’re arguing the same thing, and he’s saying that there’s no reason to hate on other teams getting generational talent because it does all the things you say it does PLUS doesn't guarantee them any actual success.
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I used to hate when other teams got generational talent. But now as I get older, I'm just happy there are these kind of players that get fans excited again and create new opportunities in different markets. Also helps other teams be better in terms of performance, drafting, and competitive nature. And fans of other teams pay to see players like this too.
The league as a whole gets better with this effect.
Agreed but I do find it harder to swallow depending on which teams get those players. For example:
- Penguins getting two of the best players of all time in back to back eras (Mario and Sid)
- Oilers getting rewarded for historic levels of incompetence
- Chicago getting the next generational player after being an organization with questionable moral values
(Blackhawk fans generally are great and I'm happy for them)
I realize that's sports. But it still chaps my hide.
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Nice moves on the shootout but couldn't convert. The headline in the news called it a Bedard shootout blooper, which I don't think is fair. Fleury obviously tripped him.
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In the NHL too, it's not a guarantee of anything. The last real "generational" talent was McDavid and Edmonton hasn't even made a final yet. Before that arguably was Crosby and Ovechkin -- Pittsburgh and Washington did see a lot of success in their careers including championships, but it's not like they were totally unstoppable teams and winning every single year. Washington in particular just won once and had a lot of adversity getting there.
Pittsburgh was 16 straight years in the playoffs, 4 finals appearances, 3 cups. You can't really ask for much better than that.
As someone about to move to Chicago and in possession of quarter-season tickets to the Blackhawks, I couldn't be more excited to watch this kid play, and, ideally, lose to the Flames at home every single year.
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That clip raises the question - is there anything in the rule book addressing a penalty that is committed by either the shooter or the goalie in a shootout/penalty shot scenario?
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That clip raises the question - is there anything in the rule book addressing a penalty that is committed by either the shooter or the goalie in a shootout/penalty shot scenario?
That's a good question.
I didn't find it funny really. Tripping a player on purpose in the shootout after you make the save seems like a bit of a dick move, especially to an 18 year old kid.
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I love that kid . His head is on straight. If he was arrogant, egotistical and false Proud he wouldn't have just skated away from MAF and dont kid yourself this kid is a student of the game ....he knows his opponents, he knows himself and he just wants to be himself and HE is his own competition.
I heard him speaking in other interviews and he's really like Crosby when he first came in.the league.
He won't be cheeky or disrespectful to anyone because he understands humility . We are all equal....no one's higher or lower.
To be a superstar with that age ....his parents did an excellent job , his coaches , teachers .
I didn't find it funny really. Tripping a player on purpose in the shootout after you make the save seems like a bit of a dick move, especially to an 18 year old kid.
After????? Dude, he was finishing that between the legs if he wasn’t tripped.
Still, it’s a tripping penalty and I’m curious as well.
I love that kid . His head is on straight. If he was arrogant, egotistical and false Proud he wouldn't have just skated away from MAF and dont kid yourself this kid is a student of the game ....he knows his opponents, he knows himself and he just wants to be himself and HE is his own competition.
I heard him speaking in other interviews and he's really like Crosby when he first came in.the league.
He won't be cheeky or disrespectful to anyone because he understands humility . We are all equal....no one's higher or lower.
To be a superstar with that age ....his parents did an excellent job , his coaches , teachers .
After????? Dude, he was finishing that between the legs if he wasn’t tripped.
Still, it’s a tripping penalty and I’m curious as well.
Technically, he didn't get a shot away but wasn't in position to score anymore either. He had already flubbed the shot and the puck was behind him.
Either way, even if you believe he was still a threat to score, it was blatant trip that outside of the shootout would be a penalty in normal circumstances.
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That clip raises the question - is there anything in the rule book addressing a penalty that is committed by either the shooter or the goalie in a shootout/penalty shot scenario?
He should have been allowed to have another chance. Imagine if the goalie decides to come out and two-hand cross check you in a shootout since there's no consequences.
The Bedard effect
