I got my numbers from removing his five games from February where he let in 16 goals on 89 shots, as I said.
Outside of that month he made 523 saves on 578 shots which is a .905 SV%
That's convenient that a goalie's worst month can just be striped from his record that is still nowhere near good enough to justify keeping over an elite prospect at .905 to begin with.
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The thing about Vladar's season last year, for me, is that he was good for a while, and then tailed off. It isn't like he sucked the whole time. And let's not forget, the season devolved for the entire team.
I think there is a good goalie there. And it sounds like a lot of people around the league do too.
That's convenient that a goalie's worst month can just be striped from his record that is still nowhere near good enough to justify keeping over an elite prospect at .905 to begin with.
You said he was "hot garbage" for the entirety of the season. I simply pointed out that wasn't the case. He did his job and was getting his team points for the vast majority of his starts.
The team collectively had a SV% of .844 and won just 3 of 11 games in February so it' wasn't just a Vladar issue either.
That's convenient that a goalie's worst month can just be striped from his record that is still nowhere near good enough to justify keeping over an elite prospect at .905 to begin with.
Well you could do that for Markstrom too.... Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr
and it doesn't matter if Vader played like kyit. At least the guys scored for him. Prob way more confident with him in net knowing that we wouldn't be down 1-0 3 mins into a game or down by 2 or more by the end of the 1st....
Markstrom's performance last year was putrid and totally non-defensible.
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How do you actually win a goaltending job in the pre-season against inferior opposition? This decision was made before camp began and there was no significant competition here.
It is just ridiculous that Vladar has this much stock within the organization that they are stalling Wolf out simply because they think he's worth more than the market will bare. Truth be told, he's a low end backup based on his numbers. There is real risk that the Wranglers won't be as good this year with new coaching needing to get acquainted with the team and also having lost players like Philips. Wolf could very easily struggle even if he's playing at a high level.
Is it better to bring Wolf in while his confidence is high and he's had recent results worthy of promotion? Is it better to leverage his friendly contract status and lower hit? Is it better to get Wolf 25-30 starts this year so that he can challenge for a starting role next or even later this season?
I'm answering yes to all of the above and it isn't even close when I look at the potential payoff to sticking with Vladar here.
If Vladar is traded in three weeks for a 3rd round pick and Wolf is recalled aren't they in a better spot?
Or will Wolf have been "ruined" between October 11th and say 23rd?
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For sure in a simplistic world that doesn't take into account any other factors or variables!
Didn't he only get one game though? I expected him to go down but I expected him to see more game action and stick around a bit longer.
I don't believe they plan to get him into NHL games unless there's an injury or the team crashes.
Yeah I don't like the "Zary can't play 4th line" logic
IMO I don't think it hurts a player at all to be playing 12 minutes a game in the NHL vs 20 minutes per game in the AHL.
Pavel Datsyuk played 13:30 minutes a game as a rookie and didn't seem to hurt him.
Coleman-Zary-Duehr looks so much better than Coleman-Schwindt-Duehr IMO.
Especially with Lindholm, Backlund, and Kadri on the roster...you can't block Zary forever as a top 9 C. You should be re-thinking your 4th line and Zary between Coleman and Duehr seems super promising to me as a speedy, energy 4th line that could really contribute offensively.
This.
Make the best 4th line you can! You already have lines 1 and 3 taking the toughest match ups.
"4th line type" isn't a type any more. Zary can absolutely fit into the picture here. If he needs to jump straight to the 2nd line in order to make the NHL then he won't be an NHLer. There has to be a step in between.
I don't have an issue with Wolf getting sent down now. We know that the plan is for Wolf to get games in the NHL this year. If he does really well, he will get more. However, the plan all along for months now was to send Wolf down, and with only 2 more games left, the Flames will be getting their two goalies into those games. I think unless Wolf looks bad in his NHL starts (and he will get them), he will get at least 10 games this year.
Zary is a guy that I thought was looking likely to make the team. He is a bit of a surprise to be sent down, but perhaps the logic is that they want him on the top line this year in Stockton and he will be getting some NHL games this year at some point.
Keeping Pospisil was the most surprising move in my mind. I didn't think he played well in any of the games that I saw him in, even though I was hoping for the best. I don't see a guy who is close, unfortunately, so I am surprised to see him at camp still. Maybe the coaches want to work with him a bit further? Maybe they see something I don't, and I don't begin to even think that I know better. I am still holding out hope for Pospisil, but he doesn't look like a guy who is progressing at all.
I am not surprised with Pettersen. He is this slow-burning developing player for the organization. He takes a small step every year. I myself have written him off in the past, but he just keeps getting better incrementally it seems. Not sure if he will end up being an NHL'er at any time, but until you at least see a plateau, you can't just write a prospect off IMO. I think he has looked mostly good - definitely hasn't stood out negatively.
Should have read the other thread - Pospisil and Pettersen need to clear waivers before being sent down. LoL
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Post game yesterday Huska said "I don't see Zary as a 4th line centre "
He then went on to say, that to make an NHL on a full time basis, he may have to take that role. It sounds like he sees Zary as a top 9 player, but one that may need to cut his teeth on a 4th to get his foot in the door.
Cut to 2:10
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