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				Flames cut training camp roster to 30
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
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				The Flames announced today that they have assigned the following players to the Calgary Wranglers of the American Hockey League: 
 
- Lucas Ciona (LW) 
 
- Yan Kuznetsov (D) 
 
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- Dustin Wolf (G) 
 
- Connor Zary (C) 
 
Additionally, forward Sam Honzek has been returned to the Vancouver Giants (WHL). 
 
The Flames now have 30 players remaining in training camp, with two goalies, 10 defencemen, and 18 forwards.
			
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			10-05-2023, 11:55 AM
			
			
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			10-05-2023, 11:55 AM
			
			
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			10-05-2023, 11:56 AM
			
			
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			Anyone have a list of who is left?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 11:57 AM
			
			
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			Does the 30 number include Rooney, Kylington, and Pelletier? 
 
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			10-05-2023, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			10-05-2023, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			Left at camp: 
 
Forwards		 
#	Player	Position 
10	Jonathan Huberdeau	LW 
11	Mikael Backlund	C 
15	Dryden Hunt	LW 
17	Yegor Sharangovich	RW 
20	Blake Coleman	RW 
21	Kevin Rooney	C 
22	Jakob Pelletier	LW 
28	Elias Lindholm	C 
29	Dillon Dube	LW 
39	Matt Coronato	RW 
43	Adam Klapka	RW 
63	Adam Ruzicka	C 
71	Walker Duehr	RW 
76	Martin Pospisil	LW 
78	Emilio Pettersen	LW 
79	Cole Schwindt	C 
88	Andrew Mangiapane	LW/RW 
91	Nazem Kadri	C 
 
Defencemen		 
#	Player	Position 
4	Rasmus Andersson	RD 
8	Chris Tanev	RD 
16	Nikita Zadorov	LD 
48	Dennis Gilbert	LD 
52	MacKenzie Weegar	LD 
55	Noah Hanifin	LD 
57	Nick DeSimone	RD 
58	Oliver Kylington	LD 
82	Jordan Oesterle	LD 
98	Ilya Solovyov	LD 
 
 
Goalies		 
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25	Jacob Markstrom	L 
80	Dan Vladar	L
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 11:59 AM
			
			
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				Does the 30 number include Rooney, Kylington, and Pelletier? 
 
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Correct, they are included
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:01 PM
			
			
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			Sending down the AHL MVP-goalie the day after he got to sit on the bench and watch a rival team dump 7 goals on the veteran backup goalie kind of sends a message. Not much has changed?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:01 PM
			
			
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			I kinda figured Klapka would make it through to the final cuts (at least), or even make the roster. Looks like I at least got that one right, unlike predicting Honzek would work his way into at least an 8-game tryout in the regs. 
 
Edit: Sucks about Wolf though. Hopefully it's because they couldn't make the space for him, rather than they wouldn't make the space for him.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			10-05-2023, 12:01 PM
			
			
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			Looks to me like maybe playing the waiver game. The other cuts will be players that need to go through waivers so they probably wait for the day all the teams start sending players down.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:02 PM
			
			
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				Feels early to cut Zary. 
			
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It does feel too early, but it makes sense though. 
 
With Lindholm, Kadri, and Backlund all averaging 17-19 ATOI, there's no reason to have Zary picking up the remaining 5-9 ATOI of ice time instead of anchoring the first line of the Heat.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:04 PM
			
			
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			This is my prediction on what happens for opening night: 
 
Forwards		 
#	Player	Position 
10	Jonathan Huberdeau	LW 
11	Mikael Backlund	C 
15	Dryden Hunt	LW 
17	Yegor Sharangovich	RW 
20	Blake Coleman	RW 
21	Kevin Rooney	C -IR 
22	Jakob Pelletier	LW -IR 
28	Elias Lindholm	C 
29	Dillon Dube	LW 
39	Matt Coronato	RW 
43	Adam Klapka	RW 
63	Adam Ruzicka	C 
71	Walker Duehr	RW 
76	Martin Pospisil	LW 
78	Emilio Pettersen	LW 
79	Cole Schwindt	C 
88	Andrew Mangiapane	LW/RW 
91	Nazem Kadri	C 
 
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#	Player	Position 
4	Rasmus Andersson	RD 
8	Chris Tanev	RD 
16	Nikita Zadorov	LD 
48	Dennis Gilbert	LD 
52	MacKenzie Weegar	LD 
55	Noah Hanifin	LD 
57	Nick DeSimone	RD 
58	Oliver Kylington	LD IR / unavailable 
82	Jordan Oesterle	LD 
98	Ilya Solovyov	LD 
 
 
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25	Jacob Markstrom	L 
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			10-05-2023, 12:04 PM
			
			
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				Sending down the AHL MVP-goalie the day after he got to sit on the bench and watch a rival team dump 7 goals on the veteran backup goalie kind of sends a message. Not much has changed? 
			
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For sure in a simplistic world that doesn't take into account any other factors or variables!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:05 PM
			
			
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			I am surprised that Pospisil, Schwindt, and Pettersen outlasted Zary.  Hard to see any of them being on the final roster though. 
 
Solovyov seems to be the breakthrough player so far at camp, but he is probably still a dark horse to make the final cut over Oesterle, Gilbert, or DeSimone. 
 
When all is said and done, it is looking more and more like Coronato may be the only rookie making the team right out of camp.  Pelletier likely would have made it of course if not for the injury.  Pretty underwhelming if all the talk about spots being open for rookies to take ends up not panning out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-05-2023, 12:05 PM
			
			
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				Sending down the AHL MVP-goalie the day after he got to sit on the bench and watch a rival team dump 7 goals on the veteran backup goalie kind of sends a message. Not much has changed? 
			
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The only message being sent is that he will be in the AHL when he's not playing in the NHL that night - at least until Vladar (or markstrom) is traded.
 
Nothing is preventing Wolf from playing as many games as the Flames want him to in the NHL, except for needing a roster spot and salary cap.
 
So maybe on nights the Flames want Wolf to start, another waiver inelligible player has to be sent down.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:06 PM
			
			
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				This is my prediction on what happens for opening night: 
 
Forwards		 
#	Player	Position 
10	Jonathan Huberdeau	LW 
11	Mikael Backlund	C 
15	Dryden Hunt	LW 
17	Yegor Sharangovich	RW 
20	Blake Coleman	RW 
21	Kevin Rooney	C -IR 
22	Jakob Pelletier	LW -IR 
28	Elias Lindholm	C 
29	Dillon Dube	LW 
39	Matt Coronato	RW 
43	Adam Klapka	RW 
63	Adam Ruzicka	C 
71	Walker Duehr	RW 
76	Martin Pospisil	LW 
78	Emilio Pettersen	LW 
79	Cole Schwindt	C 
88	Andrew Mangiapane	LW/RW 
91	Nazem Kadri	C 
 
Defencemen		 
#	Player	Position 
4	Rasmus Andersson	RD 
8	Chris Tanev	RD 
16	Nikita Zadorov	LD 
48	Dennis Gilbert	LD 
52	MacKenzie Weegar	LD 
55	Noah Hanifin	LD 
57	Nick DeSimone	RD 
58	Oliver Kylington	LD IR / unavailable 
82	Jordan Oesterle	LD 
98	Ilya Solovyov	LD 
 
 
Goalies		 
#	Player	Catches 
25	Jacob Markstrom	L 
80	Dan Vladar	L 
			
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Oesterle over Solovyov is a tough one. I like both, but Solovyov cracking the lineup would be (as someone else here put) found money, and there's nothing at all wrong with finding some $$$ once in awhile.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:08 PM
			
			
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			It’s the right call for Zary and wolf. 1 preseason game left. Marky will be getting that start. Wolf was always starting season on wranglers . Zary showed great improvements . He’s better to get 1st line minutes with power play than be 12th/13th forward right now
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:08 PM
			
			
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			Absolute BS move to send Zary down.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-05-2023, 12:09 PM
			
			
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				I am surprised that Pospisil, Schwindt, and Pettersen outlasted Zary.  Hard to see any of them being on the final roster though. 
 
Solovyov seems to be the breakthrough player so far at camp, but he is probably still a dark horse to make the final cut over Oesterle, Gilbert, or DeSimone. 
 
When all is said and done, it is looking more and more like Coronato may be the only rookie making the team right out of camp.  Pelletier likely would have made it of course if not for the injury.  Pretty underwhelming if all the talk about spots being open for rookies to take ends not happening. 
			
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I think going in we were assuming Coronato and Pelletier though weren't we?
 
The goalie log jam was known. 
The blueline was pretty much set without a young guy pushing.
 
Zary could have pushed through, but really didn't.
 
Not sure it's all that different than what was expected with the Pelletier injury.
 
Considerably younger fourth line regardless.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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