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Old 10-04-2023, 07:16 AM   #401
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I just realized how even more sucky and archaic baseball is.

When you have a best of 3, one of the teams doesn't even have a home game!

I guess that makes sense in 1922 when every team has to travel by train or by horse.... lol
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Old 10-04-2023, 08:41 AM   #402
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Admittedly I kinda like it. Puts more pressure on one team for a distinct home advantage. And pushes for not just getting in by the skin of your teeth (wild card spot). Further it gives revenue to only one owner.
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Old 10-04-2023, 08:45 AM   #403
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Admittedly I kinda like it. Puts more pressure on one team for a distinct home advantage. And pushes for not just getting in by the skin of your teeth (wild card spot). Further it gives revenue to only one owner.
Nope...doesnt work that way.

Fifty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the Wild Card games is contributed to the Players Pool. (This provision was added in the new CBA.)

Sixty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the first three games of the Division Series is contributed to the Players Pool.

Sixty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the first four games of the Championship Series and the World Series is contributed to the Players Pool.

All paid attendance receipts not paid to the Commissioner’s Office or contributed to the Players Pool is shared equally between the two teams in each Series or Wild Card game.
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I just realized how even more sucky and archaic baseball is.

When you have a best of 3, one of the teams doesn't even have a home game!

I guess that makes sense in 1922 when every team has to travel by train or by horse.... lol
Compared to what it was even 20 years ago it is right now is way better. Before they had way fewer teams make it and they usually were the same teams over and over (Yankees...). I'll glad take a best of 3 without a home game to not even being in the playoffs.
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Old 10-04-2023, 09:25 AM   #405
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It was a good defensive play, not a great one. No matter how far back he was, he's still knows he has to backup the third baseman, and throwing a ball 100 ft to the catcher is pretty routine for an everyday SS.

Bo ran through a stop sign from a coach who could see the play developing behind him and as mentioned, not a great jump around third in the first place...live it didnt ever look like he had a chance to get home outside of a throwing error.

Again, bases loaded if he stayed at third wouldve changed the dynamic for the Twins in that inning and the game, and had much better odds of the Jays getting that single run and or more that inning, and then it's game on.

Instead no run, 2 other runners left on, and deflating to the dugout for coming up empty after getting those runners on, in a 3 run game.

Jays will win tomorrow, hopefully handily so the pen gets decent rest for Thursday.
Look at the replay. Correa wasn't backing him up, he didn't break for the ball until it was muffed. As for the stop sign, that kind of play is not a third base coach call. It's up to the player watching the ball. If you're waiting for the third base coach, it's already too late. And honestly if you're too "deflated" to play after a runner is thrown out at home then it's probably not in the cards for you as a team.

One team made more plays than the other, so the series is 1-0.
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Compared to what it was even 20 years ago it is right now is way better. Before they had way fewer teams make it and they usually were the same teams over and over (Yankees...). I'll glad take a best of 3 without a home game to not even being in the playoffs.
Or how about live in a 1988 world where 16 teams make the playoffs and have best of 7 series? and par down the 162 game reg season schedule.
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Nope...doesnt work that way.

Fifty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the Wild Card games is contributed to the Players Pool. (This provision was added in the new CBA.)

Sixty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the first three games of the Division Series is contributed to the Players Pool.

Sixty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the first four games of the Championship Series and the World Series is contributed to the Players Pool.

All paid attendance receipts not paid to the Commissioner’s Office or contributed to the Players Pool is shared equally between the two teams in each Series or Wild Card game.
Thanks for the fact check. I made that assumption. That said, this is gate revenue they’re referencing right? So that’s split? What about concessions or other sales involved? Just curious.
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Nope...doesnt work that way.

Fifty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the Wild Card games is contributed to the Players Pool. (This provision was added in the new CBA.)

Sixty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the first three games of the Division Series is contributed to the Players Pool.

Sixty percent of the paid attendance receipts from the first four games of the Championship Series and the World Series is contributed to the Players Pool.

All paid attendance receipts not paid to the Commissioner’s Office or contributed to the Players Pool is shared equally between the two teams in each Series or Wild Card game.
Another reason you don't want to play the Rays then - 50% (Jays share) of 50% (owner's share) of 50% (percent of tickets sold) at a low price stadium probably doesn't really move the needle revenue wise...
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Another reason you don't want to play the Rays then - 50% (Jays share) of 50% (owner's share) of 50% (percent of tickets sold) at a low price stadium probably doesn't really move the needle revenue wise...
Rays with less than 20,000 fans for their first game. How crazy is that? There really shouldn't be a team there. Lowest non-COVID attendance for a MLB playoff game since 1919.
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Jays posted their lineup, going with the same lineup as yesterday
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As bad as the Blue Jays' day was, the Rays had an even worse time laying an error-filled turd at home in front of a half filled stadium.
So about 10x their normal attendance. Impressive!


Why on earth cant they move that team to Montreal.
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I’m willing to give Vlad a near full pass given the recent information. However, he should be dropped a few spots in the lineup. His average is up there but when you need him and pitchers throw their best, he seems to hit lousier. It’s an adjustment and focus thing but again given the recent info it is what it is. Just move him lower so other guys who may be hitting better can make progress. Other challenge is he’s one of the few that have power, and sometimes when you’re down you need that one swing. So…I dunno.
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A .157 avg and .215 slugging isn't good enough?

Him and Bichette have to lead the team. They need to prove they are the real deal. And until they put the team on their backs, it is going nowhere.
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A .157 avg and .215 slugging isn't good enough?

Him and Bichette have to lead the team. They need to prove they are the real deal. And until they put the team on their backs, it is going nowhere.
True. But I don’t think you can wait for them to bust out of a slump in a playoff game. I’d just go with whomever had the recent hot hand and hope they figure it out. Bo is fine. I’d move Biggio to his spot frankly.
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^ feel dirty even typing that. I thought Cavan’s days were done ages ago. Totally wrong as of late.
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Old 10-04-2023, 01:13 PM   #418
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I can never help but feel that Gaudreau+Monahan has so many similarities to Bichette+Vladdy.

So many of the narratives about playoff performance, can you win with them, etc are so similar.
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